Yup... it's the Catch 22 scenario... :(
Travis
Matt Ferre wrote:
As long as you (and others) are actually buying these RB411s and
Crossroads instead of Nanostations they won't even consider doing it.
On 7/21/08, Travis Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Mikrotik would make MORE money by porting ROS to the Nanostation than they
currently make on the Crossroads or RB411 (which we are buying hundreds per
month of now).
If it's a business decision, MT would be smart to port the software ASAP.
Travis
Matt Ferre wrote:
One more note. Mikrotik has long history of introducing 'their'
version of hardware that was previously sold by UBNT and made the
momentum.
First there was SR5. Then there came Mikrotik R52H, which is far worse
in terms of performance and quality (though 50% cheaper) but just at
that time became the high power card of choice for all MT based
applications. Just at that time you could see MT support posts on
their forum starting to suggest swapping SR5 to R52H if you only had
any problems and that move alone was magicaly supposed to cure all
your problems.
Then there came RB133 - a cheap CPE replacement for LS5 and/or LS2. At
that time LS2/LS5 became a no-no for MT use too.
Then again, there is a Crossroads which is brand new and strangely
similiar to LS2. That's obviously a coincidence too.
And no, I am not saying Mikrotik is evil. They are just a profit
oriented company with clear idea how to explore their market share and
having a really solid businessplan. And just as you will never see
Microsoft supporting Linux type software, you will never see Mikrotik
supporting NS2/5. Though it's likely you may see Mikrotik version of
hardware pretty much the same as NS2/5 sometime soon.
On 7/21/08, Sam Tetherow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
While you may be right on their focus being RB+ROS. I don't understand
why they would not want to sell a $40 license on a piece of hardware
giving them a theoretical profit of close to $40. Hardware has to be
manufactured and shipped and warrantied to some extent. If they are
already writing the software to go with their hardware, why not pick up
the extra sale on someone elses hardware at next to no addtional cost.
People buying the NS2/5 are doing it from a cost standpoint. Even with
an additional $40 for a software license it would be 110 for a compact
unit with integrated antenna, dual polarity and a POE. That is $10 less
than just the crossroads board with no POE, antenna or enclosure. It
would cost another 50% for a rootenna and POE.
If they worked with Ubiquiti they would have a chance to own the lowend
market and finally have certified gear out there. The upgrade path
would be perfect for their hardware. They would sell the AP hardware as
well as higher end CPEs for business and backhauls and still make
$40/CPE on the cheap end. And the operator has a 100% end to end ROS
network. I wonder if they are making $40 on a crossroads after
manufacture and shipping. I really don't see the downside to this,
especially if the hardware is similar to the crossroads and ubiquiti
really expressed and interest in working with them.
Well, if MT doesn't want the business, I wonder if Lonnie is
interested...
Sam Tetherow
Sandhills Wireless
Matt Ferre wrote:
Looking at the posts on the Mikrotik forum I'd say Mikrotik doesn't
exactly like Ubiquiti. And from business point of view I can clearly
see why.
Who exactly would benefit from porting Mikrotik to NS5? Mikrotik? No,
their Routerboard sales would drop and as we see during last two years
they are more into selling Routerboard + Routeros package than the
software alone. Ubiquiti would be the main beneficiary of that
situation and that's why you're not going to see it happen. Never
ever.
On Sun, 20 Jul 2008, Jeromie Reeves wrote:
Oswave says there is no NS2/5 support and will not be. DD-WRT has
support. That is a shame since ros/sos seam not to have plans to
support them. I wonder how much effort/money it would be to get
Ubiquity to solicit a firmware from someone?
My understanding (this is "friend of a friend" quality info) is that
MT and Ubiquity DID have discussions about the NS platform. It is
not something that is going to happen "out of the box", however with
a 16M flash that Travis mentioned, perhaps it is something that
could be done. I mean, the cost would be just $45 for the nLevel4
license and only about $23 or so (I can't recall the available
pricing) for nLevel3 plus the hardware cost.
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