None of that can be applied. Strictly HAM radio stuff, non-commercial. Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck McCown - 3" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 9:38 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower site licensing problem > Good bunch of info here. Almost all of can be applied to us. > http://www.arrl.org/FandES/field/regulations/local/prb-1_program.html > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joe Fiero" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "'WISPA General List'" <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 8:34 AM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower site licensing problem > > >> We have found that most municipalities have not regulated, beyond a >> building >> permit, towers below a certain height. Some were very generous at >> 100-110 >> feet, some were a bit stingy at 50 feet, but the majority has been open >> for >> anything of 70-80 feet or below. >> >> That to me is a reasonable ordinance that does not classify the single >> use >> tower for a 2-way/WISP as if we were American Tower. >> >> >> Joe >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >> Behalf Of ralph >> Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 10:28 AM >> To: 'WISPA General List' >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower site liscensing problem >> >> So what exactly are the zoning rules for structures in that area- >> specifically towers? You did not tell us this. >> Many times any structure of a certain height of any type need a variance >> or >> use permit to be there- in our area it is 35 ft. Even applies to a house. >> >> Of course if you were a Ham operator and this was a Ham tower and only >> Ham >> antennas were on it, you could try the Federal pre-emption PRB-1. But all >> this does is help force them to create less stringent rules for that >> tower. >> For example, after enlisting the help of an attorney, one local Ham got >> most >> of the Counties/Cities here to raise that to 70' as long as proper >> engineering was done and a few other requirements were ment, such as lot >> size,etc. >> >> >> Raph >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >> Behalf Of Isp Operator >> Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 4:38 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: [WISPA] Tower site liscensing problem >> >> Hi Gang, >> >> We recently received notice that one of our locations has received the >> interest of our county planning department, who has determined that the >> location requires a 'use permit' for a major impact utility location >> (eg: Cellular telephone). Naturally, we strongly disagree with this >> determination. >> >> The site is in a remote location, on private property completely out of >> view of anybody(*), solar powered, on a 25' mast, with only the most >> basic of equipment installed including two access points with an omni >> and a sector. Aside from being 'outdoors', really, there's no >> resemblance to a 'cellphone tower' as the gear is equivalent to what >> most people use for their home wireless networks, albeit with slightly >> larger externally mounted antennas. The planning department DID NOT cite >> any building codes or height restrictions, just that we seem to be >> 'transmitting' as well as 'receiving', and we're certain that the >> determination has to do ONLY with the fact that it's a wireless repeater >> and otherwise wouldn't receive any attention at all if it was a wind >> generator, weather station or other application. >> >> The substantial weight of the use permit process they wish us to go thru >> is exactly that for a major cellphone site, complete with hefty >> application fees, public hearings, zoning approvals, and the whole nine >> yards. Assuming we made it all the way thru the process, we would then >> also be required to build it up with severe site upgrades including fire >> access and other features, which is simply too much overkill and we >> would not be able to comply. >> >> Isn't there some kind of exemption or otard-similar ruling or legal >> guidelines from the fcc regarding this type of situation? I can only >> imagine that the criteria cited would also apply to many, many other >> uses of part-15 devices and that the regulations just predate (2001 in >> our case) the real onslaught of linksys in every home. I also imagine >> that there would be substantial damage if every wisp was required to get >> cellphone tower permits for every single repeater in use according to >> these strict interpretations. We're going to need more than common sense >> here, we're going to need legal precedence or references to directly >> refute this determination, and we would appreciate your help. >> >> Thanks all. >> >> >> (* We were turned in by a certain tin hat, who has been dogging us for >> some time now and attempting to create sympathy for their extreme views >> which we are sure you all are aware of. 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