Cool.  Any of them able to work with a small WISP that has a HUGE coverage 
zone?  Much of which is too expensive to get to at this time....

Feel free to have a couple call me if they think there is a way to make this 
fly.

I might not like the programs but I'm no fool either :-)
Marlon
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chuck McCown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 10:40 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] gotta love USF!!!!


> Nope, but I know plenty of consultants.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Marlon K. Schafer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 9:53 AM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] gotta love USF!!!!
>
>
>> Splitting hairs Chuck.
>>
>> If it's government mandated collections it's a tax.  If it's government
>> mandated expenditure it's a subsidy.  grin
>>
>> I'm not saying it doesn't have it's place.  Heck I'd love to get what
>> Century Tel gets out here!  If I could find a way to do so I'd do what I
>> could to get in front of that revenue stream.
>>
>> Do you consult on such things?
>>
>> marlon
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Chuck McCown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 8:29 AM
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] gotta love USF!!!!
>>
>>
>>> Hold your horses there Marlon... the government pays... the government
>>> pays
>>> for USF???
>>> No, it is industry supported.  100% of the revenue comes from
>>> telecommunications companies and is returned to telecommunications
>>> companies.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Marlon K. Schafer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 8:57 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] gotta love USF!!!!
>>>
>>>
>>>> Just because the government will pay for it in no way makes it a good
>>>> idea
>>>> :-).
>>>>
>>>> Chuck is good at working the system as it exists for his industry.  I
>>>> can't
>>>> fault him (too much) for that.  I wish I were in a similar situation.
>>>>
>>>> My frustration isn't that USF exists as much as it is that USF is being
>>>> used
>>>> to give my competitor a government backed competitive advantage.  A 
>>>> huge
>>>> one
>>>> at that.
>>>> marlon
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Blake Bowers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 7:33 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] gotta love USF!!!!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Chucks business knowledge has proven to be right on so far,
>>>>> I suspect you don't have a clue about the situation and therefore
>>>>> posted mindless babble....
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't take your organs to heaven,
>>>>> heaven knows we need them down here!
>>>>> Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today.
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Brian Rohrbacher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 9:23 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] gotta love USF!!!!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> If you are running a hundred miles of fiber for 30 people you are not
>>>>>> right in the head.......
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chuck McCown - 3 wrote:
>>>>>> It is a cost recovery mechanism.  I got audited by USAC this year to
>>>>>> prove
>>>>>> that the USF we receive is to cover the costs of providing the
>>>>>> service.
>>>>>> But
>>>>>> think how expensive it is to run a hundred miles of fiber and put in 
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> class
>>>>>> 5 switch to serve 30 or 50 customers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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