Anyone have issues with Yagi's and ice buildup vs. a grid dish?

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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com



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From: "D. Ryan Spott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 11:40 AM
To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] NOGO's

> The first gen Tranzeos were not so good.... At all.
>
> The 902 serieis.. Much better. 900 can be voodoo though. I consider it and 
> a 18 db yagi the last chance for desperate customers.
>
> ryan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Randy Cosby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 9:24 AM
> To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] NOGO's
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> I think this number is going to fluctuate a lot depending on a number of
> things.
>
> 1. Frequencies available - we typically only use 5.8 or 2.3 (MMDS).  Not
> good for NLOS installations.  I'm looking into 900 for some areas to get
> around this problem..
>
> 2. Topography.  Big flat areas with mountains surrounding them will be
> easier to hit with high-up towers.  Crazy southwest desert outcroppings,
>  cinder cones, canyons, etc. make it difficult here.
>
> 3. Vegetation - palms vs pine trees
>
> 4. Area covered / density.  Chuck and Travis have HUGE areas.  I'm
> impressed with how much they do cover.
>
> I do agree that "nogo" numbers are something we need to study more
> closely and try to improve upon.  Some great ideas here (google mapping
> nogos, etc.)
>
> Doing coverage maps with Radio Mobile and Google Maps / Earth is not
> really hard.  We use those extensively.  I'll try to write something up
> soon.
>
> Randy
>
>
> RickG wrote:
>> About 35%. You cant get them all. What do you think an acceptable
>> number would be?
>> -RickG
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 11:30 PM, Travis Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> Along a different line... What is everyone's percentage on NOGO's
>>> (that's what we call people we try to install and can't get a good
>>> enough signal)? Ours was quite a bit higher than I thought when I looked
>>> a few days ago... Out of 1,500+ completed installs during the last 12
>>> months, we had 208 people we couldn't install successfully. If we only
>>> had more time to find more tower locations... :(
>>>
>>> Travis
>>> Microserv
>>>
>>> Chuck McCown - 3 wrote:
>>>> We always assume we will get a signal.  We are rarely wrong.
>>>>   ----- Original Message -----
>>>>   From: Travis Johnson
>>>>   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; WISPA General List
>>>>   Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 9:07 PM
>>>>   Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Tranzeo] New Update - Tranzeo/Mtik 
>>>> disconnectissueOct7th, 2008
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   So there are people that don't roll a truck because some software 
>>>> says you may not be able t
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