In the absence of Mr Delp, I will make the determination that this thread _is_ closed.
I apologize for not catching the personal attacks from multiple people earlier. ryan -----Original Message----- From: Steve Barnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 6:44 AM To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Article Isn't it about time to kill this thread. There is no love here, there is a bunch of ranting and posturing that does not help this organization. We all do the best we can in our own world of influence. What I believe may not be what anyone else believes and I have the right to state it ONCE. If I have to insult others to get my point across then I am a smaller person then the one I am arguing with. Let's be big boys and girls and get back to business of help our clients and this organization as a whole. And quite filling up my inbox with this junk. Steve Barnes RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 4:13 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Article Actually NOT believing in business swilling at the feet of the federal sow, sucking up the future blood of future taxpayers is 'self righteous bull...". Gotcha. Damn. I thought we were Americans. Turns out we're "get every dollar you can from any where you can" suckling pigs. I am disgusted. Am I the ONLY and I mean ONLY person who actually acts on what they say they believe? I mean, complaining about federal spending and blowing money at the expense of the taxpayers has been an American Olympic sport. Then suddenly, actually suggesting we continue to think and act that way, now that we've got an organization in DC to lobby for us, is "too radical"? What happened, you checked your common sense and your righteous indigation at the door when you filed your incorporation papers? Now it's just a free for all, a contest to see how much taxpayer blood you can suck up? If so, then the condemnation previously heaped on the "captains of greed" will rightly rest on your shoulders. I want no part of it. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ <insert witty tagline here> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack Unger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 12:39 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Article > One valid point within a cloud of self-rightous bullsh*t does not a wise > person make. > > Mike Hammett wrote: >> Mark does make valid points (not all), but they're often clouded by >> things other people don't want to listen to. >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> http://www.ics-il.com >> >> >> >> >> From: Jack Unger >> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 3:55 PM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Article >> >> >> Jeff, >> >> I commend you for urging us to keep an open mind and keep open to a wide >> range of opinions. I also agree that we should listen to the opinions of >> all WISPs, including current non-WISPA members. Unfortunately Mxxx's >> normal tone is so negative and so self-righteous and so arrogant that it >> turns me OFF therefore I tend to skip over his posts without reading >> them. >> >> I want to try to be open to all the opinions of WISPs who are capable of >> forming reasoned opinions but unfortunately there a very few people who >> are so self-centered that they are often incapable of expressing opinions >> that are useful to anyone except themselves. My time is limited and I >> want to spend it in the most productive way possible. >> >> jack >> >> >> Jeff Broadwick wrote: >> I'll disagree with you to a point Butch. WISPA represents all WISPs >> generally and it's members specifically. I don't agree with a lot that >> Mark >> writes, but he's consistent and he challenges the thought process. His >> opinions should not be weighted more than a member WISP, but listening to >> him may help sharpen our message and to appeal to those who don't >> generally >> join organizations like WISPA. >> >> Regards, >> >> Jeff >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >> Behalf Of Butch Evans >> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 9:45 AM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Article >> >> On Wed, 3 Dec 2008, Tom DeReggi wrote: >> >> I am open to feedback from you, on what your opinions are, so we can >> decide on a WISPA policy for those questions. >> >> Tom, don't get caught up in arguments with him. He is not a WISPA member >> (unless that's changed) and as such, his opinion is NOT valid in shaping >> WISPA policy. 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