I tired but it wouldn't let me submit my answers. kept saying that I needed to put in a positive number. I even tried putting 0 into all open fields. Oh well. 6 alvarion 200 or so smartbridges are probably still out there. 300 to 400 tranzeo a handful of trango. at least 6 different brands of ap's. More and more MT for that though. marlon
----- Original Message ----- From: "RickG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 8:16 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] Book1.xls > I've been on this list for years and noticed a few people participate > on a fairly quick basis. Most of the list either rarely respond or > take several days to do so. I bet more numbers will come in over the > next week. > -RickG > > On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 6:10 PM, Chuck McCown - 3 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> It started on the Motorola mailing list? Really? >> News to me. >> I thought it was started at [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> So where is the Alvarion and Trango mailing list? >> Perhaps you should start one there. Or invite them to participate? >> >> But I restate my earlier prognostication, human nature requires you to >> suppress or dismiss that which causes cognitive dissonance... >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Travis Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "Motorola Canopy User Group" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 4:05 PM >> Subject: Re: [Motorola II] [WISPA] Book1.xls >> >> >>>I don't believe this to be a real survey (so far). The entire survey has >>>only been running over a weekend, and was started on the Motorola mailing >>>list. I would suggest that it runs for another week and then let's see. >>> >>> If I remember correctly, there are some very large Alvarion WISPs that I >>> know have not responded... as well as Trango and others. >>> >>> Travis >>> Microserv >>> >>> Chuck McCown - 3 wrote: >>>> Some use multiple technologies mixed. 34 use canopy. I have sent the >>>> detail. Looks believable to me. >>>> >>>> I guess the is the problem, I state a metric, like Mot reports having >>>> half the market. So someone says they are full of crap and that nobody >>>> can believe something like that. >>>> (Part of being an evangelist for a choice is to reject, discredit or >>>> suppress information that holds the alternates in a good light). >>>> >>>> So I do a very off-the-cuff non scientific study trusting that folks >>>> will >>>> be honest. >>>> >>>> One question for you Mac: >>>> Are you saying everyone is equally stretching the truth? >>>> Are Canopy users less honest than Trango or MT users? >>>> I would presume that the MT or Trango would be the ones stretching the >>>> truth... >>>> <grin> >>>> >>>> How far do you reckon that folks have stretched their numbers? I'll be >>>> happy to put my name by my number. >>>> >>>> Personally, I think everyone at WISPA is honest and we have a very >>>> honest >>>> sampling. I was only testing the hypothesis that Canopy represents >>>> about >>>> half the WISP market. Or really, more formally I was attempting to >>>> prove >>>> the null hypothesis that all manufacturers are equally likely to be >>>> supplying the market. >>>> I have not proved the null hypothesis. Actually, I think it is >>>> rejected. >>>> >>>> We can get into confidence intervals and margin of errors (which would >>>> probably be about 12% for a survey like this) and ANOVA and Chi and a >>>> bunch of other stuff I have suppressed in a dusty corner of my noggin, >>>> but really, I was just looking for a general feel. >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mac Dearman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> To: "'WISPA General List'" <[email protected]> >>>> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 3:10 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [Motorola II] [WISPA] Book1.xls >>>> >>>> >>>>> Chuck, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I think someone (read - as in very many) have stretched the truth >>>>> with >>>>> your survey. I could be wrong, (not the first time) but according to >>>>> your >>>>> poll the 43 WISPs have an average of 1153.418 subscribers each! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> It appears that 27 of the 43 WISPs used Canopy and those 27 ISPs count >>>>> for >>>>> a total of 1162.3 subs each while the total of the rest of the WISPs >>>>> combined (16) have an average of 1138.3 subscribers >>>>> >>>>> I guess there could be some really huge WISPs out here that >>>>> participated >>>>> in >>>>> the survey that I am not aware of. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Cool survey & THANKS!! >>>>> >>>>> Mac >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>> On >>>>>> Behalf Of Chuck McCown >>>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 2:43 PM >>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>> Subject: [WISPA] Book1.xls >>>>>> >>>>>> Got tired of adding it up each time. >>>>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>>>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >>>>>> Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.15/1833 - Release Date: >>>>>> 12/6/2008 4:55 PM >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> WISPA Wants You! 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