I would still like to see the giant map done. Personally I would trust WISPA as a trusted third party to hold confidential data for aggregation purposes. And if others didn't trust WISPA, WISPA could hire a CPA firm to hold the data. Wouldn't cost that much.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Mac Dearman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Motorola Canopy User Group'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "'WISPA General List'" <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 7:03 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] Book1.xls > See in line comments for my sanities sake :) > > >> -----Original Message----- >> Behalf Of Chuck McCown >> >> Some use multiple technologies mixed. 34 use canopy. I have sent the >> detail. Looks believable to me. > > [Mac says] I to use mixed technologies and the numbers just took me by > surprise. I was not looking to see an average sub count anywhere near that > number per WISP. It makes me smile all over to see this kind of numbers > associated with that many WISPs. It reassures me that we (the wireless > industry) is healthy and moving ahead in the world. > >> >> I guess the is the problem, I state a metric, like Mot reports having >> half >> the market. So someone says they are full of crap and that nobody can >> believe something like that. >> (Part of being an evangelist for a choice is to reject, discredit or >> suppress information that holds the alternates in a good light). > > [Mac says] I agree with that comment 100%. I think it called "human > nature" > when we defend what we believe in and I believe (part of the time) that > what > I am doing is the absolute right thing and I will stand up for it :) > > >> >> So I do a very off-the-cuff non scientific study trusting that folks >> will be >> honest. > > [Mac says] Well - as I stated earlier - THANKS for the survey. I would > like > to see a larger sampling though and let it run longer just to see how many > subs we (WISPs) actually have onboard. If we all stand together - united - > we can accomplish a lot of good for the industry. This TVWS that we > (WISPA) > is currently working on didn't become a reality for all of us due to > WISPAs > just sitting back and not speaking up! We need numbers even if it is an > honest "off the cuff" survey. You did good Chuck! > > >> >> One question for you Mac: >> Are you saying everyone is equally stretching the truth? >> Are Canopy users less honest than Trango or MT users? >> I would presume that the MT or Trango would be the ones stretching the >> truth... >> <grin> > > [Mac says] Well - - I wouldn't tend to think that the Moto guys are any > less > truthful than the rest of the guys :) unless the Rf from the Moto gear has > done something to your brains :) I guess I was taken by surprise by the > averages of all. If anyone took offense - I apologize because that was not > my intent. If those are honestly truthful (or even close) numbers - - this > industry and the amount of subs we serve collectively is very large - - - > makes me smile!! > > > >> >> How far do you reckon that folks have stretched their numbers? I'll be >> happy to put my name by my number. >> >> Personally, I think everyone at WISPA is honest and we have a very >> honest >> sampling. I was only testing the hypothesis that Canopy represents >> about >> half the WISP market. Or really, more formally I was attempting to >> prove >> the null hypothesis that all manufacturers are equally likely to be >> supplying the market. >> I have not proved the null hypothesis. Actually, I think it is >> rejected. > > [Mac says] I don't know anyone in Louisiana utilizing Canopy today. I am > sure there are some operators somewhere here that do - I just don't know > where they are. You know that my going Motorola is one of the two choices > (the other being go WiMAX)I will make in the next week. > > > >> >> We can get into confidence intervals and margin of errors (which would >> probably be about 12% for a survey like this) and ANOVA and Chi and a >> bunch >> of other stuff I have suppressed in a dusty corner of my noggin, but >> really, >> I was just looking for a general feel. > > > [Mac says] I think it was a great idea and needs to be duplicated on all > the > lists. I know Brian Webster has been talking about trying to get some of > this data together along with the demographics of the areas we serve. I > think it would be a great idea as well as very helpful when we visit the > FCC! > > Mac > > > > > >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Mac Dearman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "'WISPA General List'" <[email protected]> >> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 3:10 PM >> Subject: Re: [Motorola II] [WISPA] Book1.xls >> >> >> > Chuck, >> > >> > >> > I think someone (read - as in very many) have stretched the truth >> with >> > your survey. I could be wrong, (not the first time) but according to >> your >> > poll the 43 WISPs have an average of 1153.418 subscribers each! >> > >> > >> > It appears that 27 of the 43 WISPs used Canopy and those 27 ISPs >> count for >> > a total of 1162.3 subs each while the total of the rest of the WISPs >> > combined (16) have an average of 1138.3 subscribers >> > >> > I guess there could be some really huge WISPs out here that >> participated >> > in >> > the survey that I am not aware of. >> > >> > >> > Cool survey & THANKS!! >> > >> > Mac >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> On >> >> Behalf Of Chuck McCown >> >> Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 2:43 PM >> >> To: [email protected] >> >> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> Subject: [WISPA] Book1.xls >> >> >> >> Got tired of adding it up each time. >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >> >> Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.15/1833 - Release Date: >> >> 12/6/2008 4:55 PM >> > >> > >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.15/1833 - Release Date: >> 12/6/2008 4:55 PM > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > WISPA Wants You! 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