Mac, Well said!
Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mac Dearman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org> Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 9:15 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Book1.xls > It absolutely does bring clarification :) > > There is an old saying that seems appropriate: > > "You can never please all the people all the time, but you can please most > of the people most of the time." > > It's been my experience that where there is more than one person to be > represented - - there are at least as many ideas as people. There is never > just one person right, but many are right at the same time, but they have > different ways of going about explaining themselves or getting their idea > to > effective words. I would never say that WISPA is representing every WISP, > but with or without each and every one of your memberships - we are > representing the industry and being heard as so. If there are any of you > out > there that aren't a member of WISPA already- whatcha waiting for? :) > > In numbers there is strength and power. WISPA needs you, your number and > your input to help guide this industry. > > Sincerely, > Mac Dearman > > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >> Behalf Of 3-dB Networks >> Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 7:34 PM >> To: 'WISPA General List' >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Book1.xls >> >> A bastardization of the last definition :-) >> >> I don't think these lists represent the whole industry, just a part of >> it. >> I think many of the opinions expressed on this list (including mine) >> might >> not represent what the collective opinion of the industry might be. >> >> Basically this... things I hear from our customers and things I hear >> from >> this list can often times be two separate realities. Neither is wrong, >> but >> one doesn't necessarily represent the other. >> >> Does that clarify some? >> >> Daniel White >> 3-dB Networks >> >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> On >> > Behalf Of Mac Dearman >> > Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 6:24 PM >> > To: 'WISPA General List' >> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Book1.xls >> > >> > > I have always assumed that Part-15 or WISPA is a small microcosm of >> the >> > > industry as a whole. Most of our customers are not on either >> list... >> > > >> > > Daniel White >> > > 3-dB Networks >> > >> > >> > What does that statement exactly mean? :) >> > >> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microcosm >> > >> > >> > Mac >> > >> > > -----Original Message----- >> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:wireless- >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On >> > > Behalf Of 3-dB Networks >> > > Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 5:48 PM >> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'WISPA General List' >> > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Book1.xls >> > > >> > > I have always assumed that Part-15 or WISPA is a small microcosm of >> the >> > > industry as a whole. Most of our customers are not on either >> list... >> > > >> > > Daniel White >> > > 3-dB Networks >> > > >> > > > -----Original Message----- >> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:wireless- >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > On >> > > > Behalf Of Brian Webster >> > > > Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 3:51 PM >> > > > To: WISPA General List >> > > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Book1.xls >> > > > >> > > > Mac, >> > > > Since this industry has really started to mature, I would >> not be >> > > > surprised >> > > > if this data is pretty close to the industry as a whole. While >> the >> > > makeup >> > > > of >> > > > the WISPA member WISP's may not all be big like this, there are >> > > certainly >> > > > plenty of them that aren't members. Here is a link to a report >> done >> > > in >> > > > California >> > > > >> http://www.redwoodtech.org/files/CBI_WISP_Report_WorkingDraft_0.pdf >> > > about >> > > > the status of the WISP industry. This was done by the state >> broadband >> > > task >> > > > force and seems fairly balanced. California has done a pretty >> good >> > > job of >> > > > documenting where broadband exists, that is, given what any one >> > > entity can >> > > > do to document all the private business. I worked with one client >> to >> > > > compare >> > > > their results to what they knew as local market reality and it >> was >> > > pretty >> > > > close. >> > > > Heck there must be a lot more WISP's out there buying >> equipment >> > > that >> > > > we >> > > > know of at WISPA, I don't think the equipment manufacturers could >> > > survive >> > > > on >> > > > just the WISPA numbers alone. Given that they still develop new >> > > products >> > > > also indicates there is more market than you or I may be aware of >> or >> > > else >> > > > they would not still put R&D efforts in to something they don't >> think >> > > they >> > > > could sell and make profit on. I'm of the firm belief this >> industry >> > > is >> > > > much >> > > > bigger than anyone realizes, which is why I want to get the >> mapping >> > > > initiative off the ground to start benchmarking things. >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > Thank You, >> > > > Brian Webster >> > > > >> > > > -----Original Message----- >> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:wireless- >> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > > Behalf Of Mac Dearman >> > > > Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 5:10 PM >> > > > To: 'WISPA General List' >> > > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Book1.xls >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > Chuck, >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > I think someone (read - as in very many) have stretched the >> truth >> > > with >> > > > your survey. I could be wrong, (not the first time) but according >> to >> > > your >> > > > poll the 43 WISPs have an average of 1153.418 subscribers each! >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > It appears that 27 of the 43 WISPs used Canopy and those 27 ISPs >> > > count >> > > > for >> > > > a total of 1162.3 subs each while the total of the rest of the >> WISPs >> > > > combined (16) have an average of 1138.3 subscribers >> > > > >> > > > I guess there could be some really huge WISPs out here that >> > > participated >> > > > in >> > > > the survey that I am not aware of. >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > Cool survey & THANKS!! >> > > > >> > > > Mac >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > -----Original Message----- >> > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:wireless- >> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On >> > > > > Behalf Of Chuck McCown >> > > > > Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 2:43 PM >> > > > > To: wireless@wispa.org >> > > > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > > > Subject: [WISPA] Book1.xls >> > > > > >> > > > > Got tired of adding it up each time. >> > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. >> > > > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >> > > > > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.15/1833 - Release >> Date: >> > > > > 12/6/2008 4:55 PM >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- >> ---- >> > > ----- >> > > > -- >> > > > ---- >> > > > WISPA Wants You! 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