One question I really would love to hear the answer to..

What version of 3.x are you using (if any) on those multi core/processor
Mikrotiks?

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On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 11:40 PM, Brad Belton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I didn't want to hijack Travis's Cisco thread, but wanted to throw in my
> .02
> regarding MikroTik as a core router.
>
>
> We began running MikroTik as a core router sometime back in 2004 when our
> Cisco VXR DS3 router started to struggle.  We purchased a couple LMC DS3
> NICs from Eje at Wisp-Router and haven't looked back since.
>
> It was better than three years ago when we bench tested more than 800Mbps
> between MikroTik routers using older Intel Pro fiber NICs and standard
> 32bit
> PCI slots.  Over the years we have deployed numerous MikroTik routers with
> 24 or more 10/100 Interfaces, and several MikroTik routers with multiple
> Intel GigE Copper and Fiber Interfaces.
>
> Today our MikroTik routers have evolved to include motherboards with
> multiple PCIe x8 & x16 lane expansion slots, Quad core CPUs, 2Gig RAM,
> redundant hot-swap power supplies and multiple six port SFP NICs.  This
> latest generation of MikroTik router we are deploying are extremely fast,
> flexible, cost effective and most importantly reliable.
>
> The SFP NICs allow us to easily swap Interfaces from Copper GigE to SX
> fiber, LX fiber, ZX Fiber...all hot-swap without requiring the router to be
> powered down or rebooted.  The power supplies are diverse and redundant.
>  We
> can lose either power feed or power module or any combination of the two
> and
> still keep the router powered up.
>
> We are currently peering with three GigE upstream providers with a fourth
> GigE provider being turned up this week for unprecedented capacity and
> diversity for an ISP our size.  We are already exploring and evaluating
> 10GigE Interfaces as our requirements continue to increase.  We have no
> reason to believe the MikroTik platform will not continue to deliver the
> exceptional performance we have become accustomed to.
>
> Every client gets a MikroTik CPE router that we own and manage regardless
> of
> the medium used (microwave, copper, fiber etc.) to deliver their data
> circuit.  A MikroTik as a client CPE router gives us terrific flexibility
> and diagnostic abilities.  MikroTik allows us to provide the detailed
> information required to identify and resolve problems at the client side
> quickly and efficiently.  We have made countless "IT Guys" heroes in the
> eyes of their employers more times than I care to remember.  <grin>
>
> I firmly believe we would not be where we are today, offering the level of
> service we are able to provide without MikroTik at the core of our network.
>
> Best,
>
>
> Brad
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Gino Villarini
> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 8:42 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cisco VLAN help
>
> We are using HP Carrier Servers on our Core, Dual Xenon 2.8 Ghz, Dual
> PS, 2 GB Intel Nics with 3 PCIX 3 Port GB Cards for a total of 14 ports
> per Router
>
>
> Gino A. Villarini
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
> tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Mike Hammett
> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 10:38 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cisco VLAN help
>
> I answer with a question.  What makes you think they couldn't do 100
> megs?
> I believe the original PowerRouter series does 5.9 gigabits and the
> latest series does 8 gigabits.
>
> I don't know how strong Mikrotik's VPLS offering is, but from what I've
> heard, VPLS is the way to go.
>
>
> -----
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Josh Luthman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 8:13 P
> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cisco VLAN help
>
> > How can you possibly get 100 megs with Mikrotik?
> >
> > On 12/9/08, Dennis Burgess - LinkTechs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >> I like the "THEY ARE PAYING FOR IT"!  :)  Nothing wrong with that.
> You
> >> should be able to do that with some high end MTs and EoIP Tunnels
> though
> >> :)
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >> * Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer
> >> Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services*
> >> 314-735-0270
> >> http://www.linktechs.net <http://www.linktechs.net/>
> >>
> >> */ Link Technologies, Inc is offering LIVE Mikrotik On-Line Training
> >> <http://www.linktechs.net/onlinetraining.asp>/*
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Travis Johnson wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> Normally that is what we do... using Cisco ASA firewalls and setting
> >>> up VPN tunnels for the customers... however, this particular
> customer
> >>> needs the full 100Mbps between the ports and "transparent"
> >>> transport... and they are paying for it... :)
> >>>
> >>> Travis
> >>> Microserv
> >>>
> >>> Dennis Burgess - LinkTechs wrote:
> >>>> Just a FYI, I would just create a tunnel between the two sites.  No
> >>>> configuration on your backend network, bandwidth restrictions are
> the
> >>>> same as internet traffic typically, etc.  Simpler, and no "loop"
> >>>> issues.
> >>>>
> >>>> ------------------------------
> >>>> * Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer
> >>>> Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services*
> >>>> 314-735-0270
> >>>> http://www.linktechs.net <http://www.linktechs.net/>
> >>>>
> >>>> */ Link Technologies, Inc is offering LIVE Mikrotik On-Line
> Training
> >>>> <http://www.linktechs.net/onlinetraining.asp>/*
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Travis Johnson wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Ok... found the original problem... a few switches did not have
> the
> >>>>> vlan
> >>>>>
> >>>>> setup in the vlan database. So the VLAN is up and working now...
> but
> >>>>> the
> >>>>>
> >>>>> problem is because we have a "ring", we use Spanning Tree to keep
> from
> >>>>> having a loop in the network. But when we bring up the VLAN, the
> >>>>> spanning-tree does not start blocking the VLAN traffic. It does
> block
> >>>>> the "normal" VLAN1 traffic (like it always has), but the new VLAN
> >>>>> never
> >>>>> gets "blocked", so it creates a loop around the ring.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Am I missing something? I've checked the settings and can't find
> >>>>> anything that I missed to make it work...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Travis
> >>>>> Microserv
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Eric Rogers wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Try a "show interface fastethernet x/y switchport" and see what
> is
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>> status of the port and that trunking VLANs enabled are also
> trunking
> >>>>>> VLANs active.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Eric
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>>>> On
> >>>>>> Behalf Of Travis Johnson
> >>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 5:17 PM
> >>>>>> To: WISPA General List
> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cisco VLAN help
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> By default, when doing the switchport mode trunk, all VLAN's are
> >>>>>> allowed
> >>>>>> (I even issued the command "switchport trunk allowed vlan all"
> and it
> >>>>>> did not display on the sho conf afterward).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Travis
> >>>>>> Microserv
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Patrick Shoemaker wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Travis Johnson wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I need some Cisco switch VLAN help.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I currently have about 60 Cisco 3500 series switches connected
> >>>>>> via the
> >>>>>> GBIC ports all in a ring configuration with spanning tree. I am
> >>>>>> trying
> >>>>>> to setup a VLAN for a customer between two of the FastEthernet
> >>>>>> ports so
> >>>>>> they can connect their offices. I have port 5 on each switch
> >>>>>> setup in
> >>>>>> VLAN105 and every GBIC port on all the switches setup as
> >>>>>> trunking ports.
> >>>>>> There are 17 other cisco switches between these two.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I have this setup between two other offices, but they are
> >>>>>> directly
> >>>>>> connected to each other, with no other switches in between.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> What am I missing?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Travis
> >>>>>> Microserv
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
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> >>>>>> Is each trunk port in the path set to forward the VLAN with
> command:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> switchport trunk allowed vlan xxx
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> A sh int for an example trunk and access port would be handy.
> >>>>>>
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