I also recommend the ComTrain course. I sent a staff member to it who I knew was climbing even when I'd said we'd use a tower company to do it. He just didn't like to wait, and yes, he was completely fearless.
He came back a chastened man with truly the fear of god put into him. . He *thought* he was climbing safely before that. Best thing I ever did was send him to that course because I consider him a friend, not just a staff member. I don't want to lose either. Chuck On Jan 6, 2009, at 2:27 PM, 3-dB Networks wrote: > I did a lot of climbing before I bothered to be Comtrain > certified... after > the fact... even though I was using the right gear, I realized that > many > things I was doing were wrong. > > I strongly recommend anyone climbing towers should take a tower > climbing > course... Comtrain was great but I'm sure the other pro ones out > there are > pretty good. > > Daniel White > 3-dB Networks > http://www.3dbnetworks.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] > On > Behalf Of George Rogato > Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 12:03 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident > > Chuck McCown wrote: >> Back in the day, we climbed wooden poles with nothing other than >> our hooks > >> and hands. Once you got up, then you would throw the one single belt > around >> the pole. Most of the time the drop was between 20 and 30 feet. >> Enough > to >> hurt you pretty bad but probably not kill you. I "burned" one pole >> one >> time. Torn shirt, splinters in my arms. Funny how quick you can >> hug a > pole >> when you hook hits a knot in the pole. (The reason it happened was >> I was >> talking to and showing off for a former girlfriend). In any event, >> it was > >> the preferred way of climbing. Much quicker and easier, and >> actually, if >> the pole was nice and soft, was very safe. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "George Rogato" <wi...@oregonfast.net> >> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 10:12 AM >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident >> >> > I can remember seeing guys climb poles, just like you described. > > When we first started we knew nothing. A guy who I had wired his house > had a big picture hanging on his wall. It was him flying through the > air hanging off a cable attached to a helicopter. > He explained thats how they get you out into the middle of no where to > work on transmition lines. > Was a pretty cool picture. > > Anyways, he offered to climb for us. So eventually when we went to > build > out our first tower we used him. He was retired 60 or so. That guy was > like a monkey climbing a tree. He used a waste belt and hardly ever > tied > off. The one tower we were on had horizontal members that he would > just > walk as if it was a side walk, no belt no tie off, just a monkey. The > tower had a ladder and a couple platforms at the top to work from. > Anyways, he always would complain that he needed someone else to climb > with him cause it was lonely up on that platform alone. > So we had my son's and others go up there with him. > Nobody ever taught us how to climb or how dangerous it was. Or what > safety precautions to take. > > Until Bob M. (on his blackberry) pointed out when a wisp posted a > picture of is guy free climbing a 400' with sneakers and no belt. > > I shiver at the thoughts of what could have happened. I could have > lost > a son or worker because we were stupid. > > And we never used the old guy again, he was dangerous. We talk all the > time, and he always offers to climb for us, but I just tell him maybe > next time. > > Not sure about others, but I think Bob M's posting have saved a couple > lives. > > Thats why I wanted to querry deeper, so anyone else reading that > doesn't > know any better who is new to the industry understands safety aspect > of > climbing. > > > > George > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---- > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---- > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > WISPA Wants You! 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