We like gray. If you have to have a single color, it is the least obtrusive, at least to our tastes.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ <insert witty tagline here> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles Wu (CTI)" <[email protected]> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 6:11 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Bullet5 review... > Uh oh...we've started a holy war... > > <ducking> > > Here's my philosophy these days...*NOTHING* works perfectly, but > *ANYTHING* can be made to work -> if there's will (and a little bit of > ingenuity and duct tape), there's a way =) > > That being said, there's a case to be made, especially when we're talking > scale here, when the "wizard of oz" can no longer run everything, but > crews of "dumb minions" have taken over, that a case for paying a premium > on hardware can be made due to the labor cost savings for stuff that just > works "out of the box" vs. stuff that requires "some tweaks" and "tribal > knowledge" to make work properly > > Heck, we paid a premium and converted our infrastructure to Windows and > Cisco b/c the benefit of hiring someone who had certs and could be > productive in 2 weeks of hiring was worth the extra premium than trying to > wait & train a new guy for 6-9 months... > > My 2 cents > > On another topic, I've been looking at Cat-5 cable for CPE installs, and > am trying to figure out what color everyone likes best > > Talking about the cheap, outdoor rated unshielded Cat-5e > > Me personally, I would have thought black, but I'm finding many seem to > prefer white/beige b/c it blends in better with vinyl siding > > Thoughts? > > -Charles > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Matt Larsen - Lists > Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 9:20 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Bullet5 review... > > Sorry Travis, but you are dead wrong about 802.11 not being able to > scale beyond 20 users, especially with 802.11a. I explained how it can > be done to you before and I have consulting clients with 10,000 plus > users on their 802.11 based networks scaling right up to the same size > as any Canopy or Trango network. You might not be able to get to 150 > subs per AP, but you can certainly hit 50-75 per sector and offer > service that is damn close and a far sight cheaper than what Canopy will > do. I would take a StarOS a/b/g network over a Canopy system every day > of the week. > > As far as problems at AF09 - that is what you get when Canopy guys are > running an 802.11 network. If I was running it with the proven > equipment and deployment methods that many of us use on 802.11 networks, > there would not have been any such problems. Just because the AF09 > guys couldn't figure it out (or more likely didn't bother to try) > doesn't mean that it can't be done right. > > Matt Larsen > vistabeam.com > > > Travis Johnson wrote: >> The problem will be that they are still plain 802.11 technology. There >> is no polling or ARQ or FEC or anything else that makes technology like >> Trango, Canopy and others work so well. We pulled all of our 802.11 >> stuff down over 5 years ago. It does NOT scale. You will never get an AP >> with reliable, consistent service with more than 20 users. >> >> In fact, I think we witnessed this at AF09. Everyone connected to the >> same AP (48 I think was the count) and we continually got disconnected >> and the speeds and latency were terrible. Could there be a better "real >> world" experience than that? :) >> >> Travis >> Microserv >> >> Jerry Richardson wrote: >> >>> All I can do is shake my head. Ubiquity seems to have acquired some >>> Area51 technology..... >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> __________________________________ >>> Jerry Richardson >>> airCloud Communications >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >>> Behalf Of [email protected] >>> Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 3:42 PM >>> To: WISPA General List >>> Subject: [WISPA] UBNT Bullet5 review... >>> >>> I deployed my first Bullet5 today. Not the high power, but the >>> standard. >>> >>> throughput testing showed insignificant difference between my >>> Star-OS/WAR1 >>> combo and the Bullet. The AP shows that the Bullet has active >>> compression >>> and fast frames that functions with my star-os access point. >>> >>> I have not tried the narrower channels to see if they're compatible with >>> my star-os AP's. >>> >>> They have been certified with up to 30 db antennas. >>> >>> Summary... 1 bullet5, 1 pacwireless 25 db grid w/pigtail, 1 universal >>> mount = very cheap 5 ghz cpe - about $130 - 140 complete. Even >>> nicer??? >>> >>> The bullet slides down INTO the universal mount pipe, becoming invisible >>> after you mount and aim it. >>> >>> Just FYI... The Bullet does NAT and has a DHCP server built in. No >>> need >>> for a router, allows you to have a fully routed network. >>> >>> Opinion.... I like them. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>> <insert witty tagline here> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> -------- >>> WISPA Wants You! 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