Well, I wouldn't say "not better at all."  They are somewhat better, but 
the bigger benefit is in the city where you brake alot, have stop and go 
traffic, etc.  City mileage will be better than highway.  I get 35ish 
highway, 42ish city in my first generation (2001) prius.

Randy




Josh Luthman wrote:
> Hmm that's an interesting footnote the green peace doesn't leave.  Not
> better at all on the highway?
>
> On 2/12/09, Mike Hammett <wispawirel...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>   
>> It was a combined 40 mpg.  You're correct in that hybrids don't have any
>> better highway mpg than regular engines.
>>
>>
>> -----
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>>
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Marlon K. Schafer" <o...@odessaoffice.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 7:54 AM
>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle
>>
>>     
>>> Not on the highway it won't.  grin  That's the biggest reason I didn't
>>> even
>>> look at one.  Highway miles (almost all of my 30k+ per year miles) are
>>> often
>>> no better than any other rig.
>>> marlon
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Mike Hammett" <wispawirel...@ics-il.net>
>>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 7:10 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle
>>>
>>>
>>>       
>>>> You can still drive a hybrid...
>>>>
>>>> http://www.internationaltrucks.com/portal/site/ITrucks/menuitem.a1d4a3932b46e05831f8e968121010a0/?vgnextoid=945d07aafbfe6110VgnVCM10000085d0eb0aRCRD
>>>>
>>>> UPS also has some of their trucks powered by International hybrid
>>>> technology.  I think the one our local center had was getting over 40
>>>> mpg.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----
>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>> From: "Mark Nash" <markl...@uwol.net>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 9:15 PM
>>>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> I always thought of buying a hybrid...
>>>>>
>>>>> ...then putting it in the bed of my truck and hauling it around just to
>>>>> say
>>>>> that I take my hybrid everywhere I go...
>>>>>
>>>>> Mark Nash
>>>>> UnwiredWest
>>>>> 78 Centennial Loop
>>>>> Suite E
>>>>> Eugene, OR 97401
>>>>> 541-998-5555
>>>>> 541-998-5599 fax
>>>>> http://www.unwiredwest.com
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "D. Ryan Spott" <rsp...@cspott.com>
>>>>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 6:38 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>> Made me think of a license plate holder I saw on an SUV:
>>>>>> "Buy a hybrid, I need your gas!"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ryan
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> D. Ryan Spott
>>>>>> rsp...@cspott.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 10, 2009, at 6:33 PM, Travis Johnson wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> If it makes you feel better, today we only got 8mpg while pulling
>>>>>>> our sno-cat (with a Duramax even) at 80mph down the freeway. ;)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Travis
>>>>>>> Microserv
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mark Nash wrote:
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>> LOL I was just thinking about revitalizing this thread as I was
>>>>>>>> speeding
>>>>>>>> across our valley here because one of our techs called in sick.
>>>>>>>> Had 4
>>>>>>>> appointments to keep...about 120 miles to cover...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ...and MY service truck is an F350/V10 - crew cab - full bed.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ...I get 10 on a good day. :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mark Nash
>>>>>>>> UnwiredWest
>>>>>>>> 78 Centennial Loop
>>>>>>>> Suite E
>>>>>>>> Eugene, OR 97401
>>>>>>>> 541-998-5555
>>>>>>>> 541-998-5599 fax
>>>>>>>> http://www.unwiredwest.com
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: "Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181" <o...@odessaoffice.com>
>>>>>>>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 8:44 AM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>> fyi, it's not a van...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.leasetrader.com/photos/actual98286/640x480/GMC-Envoy-XL-Sport-Utility.jpeg
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I wanted a red or blue one with a v8 (327 and those one's
>>>>>>>>> HAUL!!!!).  Had
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> settle for a completely loaded white one though.  Leather, DVD for
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> kids,
>>>>>>>>> heated seats and seat backs, blinkers on the mirrors, air ride
>>>>>>>>> suspension
>>>>>>>>> (this rig rides better than any car I've ever had) etc.  It's also
>>>>>>>>> nearly
>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>> foot and a half longer than the standard version.  So when you get
>>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>> make
>>>>>>>>> sure you look for the one with the 3rd seat.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://shop.ebay.com/items/_W0QQ_dmptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories?_nkw=gmc+envoy+xl&_sacat=0&_fromfsb=&_trksid=m270.l1313&_odkw=gmc+envoy&_osacat=0
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> These are the same thing as the Chevy Trailblazer.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The XUV version looks pretty interesting too.  I ALMOST got one of
>>>>>>>>> them,
>>>>>>>>> didn't like the sales guy though so I walked out on the deal.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.familycar.com/RoadTests/GMC-XUV/Photos.htm
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> They have some of those on ebay too:
>>>>>>>>> http://shop.ebay.com/items/__xuv?_trkparms=72%253A317%257C66%253A2%257C65%253A12%257C39%253A1&_dmpt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_pgn=2
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> laters,
>>>>>>>>> Marlon
>>>>>>>>> (509) 982-2181
>>>>>>>>> (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)                    Consulting services
>>>>>>>>> 42846865 (icq)                                    WISP Operator
>>>>>>>>> since
>>>>>>>>> 1999!
>>>>>>>>> o...@odessaoffice.com
>>>>>>>>> www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
>>>>>>>>> www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>> From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>>>>>>>>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 11:13 AM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>> If we could get a van like that financed I would be in heaven -
>>>>>>>>>> my main
>>>>>>>>>> benefit is just as you said, everything stays warm.  Steel and
>>>>>>>>>> cold just
>>>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>>> not mix.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it,
>>>>>>>>>> poorly.
>>>>>>>>>> --- Henry Spencer
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 <
>>>>>>>>>> o...@odessaoffice.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>> I just picked up an '04 GMC Envoy XL.  It's the one with the 3rd
>>>>>>>>>>> seat.
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>>>>>> only getting 16 to 17 mpg with it but it's cheap to insure and is
>>>>>>>>>>> totally
>>>>>>>>>>> loaded.  It was just over $13k for a 50,000 mile rig with no
>>>>>>>>>>> real flaws.
>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>> did end up having to replace the radiator already, but that
>>>>>>>>>>> didn't show
>>>>>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>>>>>> at first.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The ladder sits on top nicely and is easy to reach.  Everything
>>>>>>>>>>> else
>>>>>>>>>>> sits
>>>>>>>>>>> well inside.  As a bonus all of my tools etc. stay warm in the
>>>>>>>>>>> winter
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> cold in the summer.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The 4 wheel drive has been really nice this winter too.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Best of all?  No one else drives around with a ladder on top of
>>>>>>>>>>> one.
>>>>>>>>>>> EVERYONE knows my rig.  That alone is a nice sales too.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Marlon
>>>>>>>>>>> (509) 982-2181
>>>>>>>>>>> (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)                    Consulting services
>>>>>>>>>>> 42846865 (icq)                                    WISP Operator
>>>>>>>>>>> since
>>>>>>>>>>> 1999!
>>>>>>>>>>> o...@odessaoffice.com
>>>>>>>>>>> www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
>>>>>>>>>>> www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 7:46 AM
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [WISPA] Service vehicle
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>> What does everyone use for a service vehicle?  We have an 1999
>>>>>>>>>>>> f250
>>>>>>>>>>>> that is at the end of it's road.  It has the cabinets and
>>>>>>>>>>>> ladder racks
>>>>>>>>>>>> to put al our stuff in.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Our tower climber for those picky tower owners has a brand new
>>>>>>>>>>>> Dodge.
>>>>>>>>>>>> If you haven't seen these check them out.  If we could afford
>>>>>>>>>>>> these I
>>>>>>>>>>>> wouldn't be asking :(
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>>>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>>>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>>>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it,
>>>>>>>>>>>> poorly.
>>>>>>>>>>>> --- Henry Spencer
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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