Right-the primary reason a hybrid saves gas is by recovering *some*  
otherwise wasted braking energy. But you'd get better mileage by not  
breaking in the first place, which you don't hopefully do a lot of on  
the highway.

Chuck

On Feb 12, 2009, at 8:54 AM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote:

> Not on the highway it won't.  grin  That's the biggest reason I  
> didn't even
> look at one.  Highway miles (almost all of my 30k+ per year miles)  
> are often
> no better than any other rig.
> marlon
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Hammett" <wispawirel...@ics-il.net>
> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 7:10 AM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle
>
>
>> You can still drive a hybrid...
>>
>> http://www.internationaltrucks.com/portal/site/ITrucks/menuitem.a1d4a3932b46e05831f8e968121010a0/?vgnextoid=945d07aafbfe6110VgnVCM10000085d0eb0aRCRD
>>
>> UPS also has some of their trucks powered by International hybrid
>> technology.  I think the one our local center had was getting over  
>> 40 mpg.
>>
>>
>> -----
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>>
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Mark Nash" <markl...@uwol.net>
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 9:15 PM
>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle
>>
>>> I always thought of buying a hybrid...
>>>
>>> ...then putting it in the bed of my truck and hauling it around  
>>> just to
>>> say
>>> that I take my hybrid everywhere I go...
>>>
>>> Mark Nash
>>> UnwiredWest
>>> 78 Centennial Loop
>>> Suite E
>>> Eugene, OR 97401
>>> 541-998-5555
>>> 541-998-5599 fax
>>> http://www.unwiredwest.com
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "D. Ryan Spott" <rsp...@cspott.com>
>>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 6:38 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle
>>>
>>>
>>>> Made me think of a license plate holder I saw on an SUV:
>>>> "Buy a hybrid, I need your gas!"
>>>>
>>>> ryan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> D. Ryan Spott
>>>> rsp...@cspott.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 10, 2009, at 6:33 PM, Travis Johnson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> If it makes you feel better, today we only got 8mpg while pulling
>>>>> our sno-cat (with a Duramax even) at 80mph down the freeway. ;)
>>>>>
>>>>> Travis
>>>>> Microserv
>>>>>
>>>>> Mark Nash wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> LOL I was just thinking about revitalizing this thread as I was
>>>>>> speeding
>>>>>> across our valley here because one of our techs called in sick.
>>>>>> Had 4
>>>>>> appointments to keep...about 120 miles to cover...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...and MY service truck is an F350/V10 - crew cab - full bed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...I get 10 on a good day. :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mark Nash
>>>>>> UnwiredWest
>>>>>> 78 Centennial Loop
>>>>>> Suite E
>>>>>> Eugene, OR 97401
>>>>>> 541-998-5555
>>>>>> 541-998-5599 fax
>>>>>> http://www.unwiredwest.com
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181" <o...@odessaoffice.com>
>>>>>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 8:44 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> fyi, it's not a van...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.leasetrader.com/photos/actual98286/640x480/GMC-Envoy-XL-Sport-Utility.jpeg
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I wanted a red or blue one with a v8 (327 and those one's
>>>>>>> HAUL!!!!).  Had
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> settle for a completely loaded white one though.  Leather, DVD  
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> kids,
>>>>>>> heated seats and seat backs, blinkers on the mirrors, air ride
>>>>>>> suspension
>>>>>>> (this rig rides better than any car I've ever had) etc.  It's  
>>>>>>> also
>>>>>>> nearly
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> foot and a half longer than the standard version.  So when you  
>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>> make
>>>>>>> sure you look for the one with the 3rd seat.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://shop.ebay.com/items/_W0QQ_dmptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories?_nkw=gmc+envoy+xl&_sacat=0&_fromfsb=&_trksid=m270.l1313&_odkw=gmc+envoy&_osacat=0
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> These are the same thing as the Chevy Trailblazer.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The XUV version looks pretty interesting too.  I ALMOST got  
>>>>>>> one of
>>>>>>> them,
>>>>>>> didn't like the sales guy though so I walked out on the deal.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.familycar.com/RoadTests/GMC-XUV/Photos.htm
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> They have some of those on ebay too:
>>>>>>> http://shop.ebay.com/items/__xuv?_trkparms=72%253A317%257C66%253A2%257C65%253A12%257C39%253A1&_dmpt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_pgn=2
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> laters,
>>>>>>> Marlon
>>>>>>> (509) 982-2181
>>>>>>> (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)                    Consulting services
>>>>>>> 42846865 (icq)                                    WISP Operator
>>>>>>> since
>>>>>>> 1999!
>>>>>>> o...@odessaoffice.com
>>>>>>> www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
>>>>>>> www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>>>>>>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 11:13 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If we could get a van like that financed I would be in heaven -
>>>>>>>> my main
>>>>>>>> benefit is just as you said, everything stays warm.  Steel and
>>>>>>>> cold just
>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>> not mix.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it,
>>>>>>>> poorly.
>>>>>>>> --- Henry Spencer
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Marlon K. Schafer (509)  
>>>>>>>> 982-2181 <
>>>>>>>> o...@odessaoffice.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I just picked up an '04 GMC Envoy XL.  It's the one with the  
>>>>>>>>> 3rd
>>>>>>>>> seat.
>>>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>>>> only getting 16 to 17 mpg with it but it's cheap to insure  
>>>>>>>>> and is
>>>>>>>>> totally
>>>>>>>>> loaded.  It was just over $13k for a 50,000 mile rig with no
>>>>>>>>> real flaws.
>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>> did end up having to replace the radiator already, but that
>>>>>>>>> didn't show
>>>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>>>> at first.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The ladder sits on top nicely and is easy to reach.   
>>>>>>>>> Everything
>>>>>>>>> else
>>>>>>>>> sits
>>>>>>>>> well inside.  As a bonus all of my tools etc. stay warm in the
>>>>>>>>> winter
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> cold in the summer.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The 4 wheel drive has been really nice this winter too.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Best of all?  No one else drives around with a ladder on top  
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> one.
>>>>>>>>> EVERYONE knows my rig.  That alone is a nice sales too.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Marlon
>>>>>>>>> (509) 982-2181
>>>>>>>>> (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)                    Consulting services
>>>>>>>>> 42846865 (icq)                                    WISP  
>>>>>>>>> Operator
>>>>>>>>> since
>>>>>>>>> 1999!
>>>>>>>>> o...@odessaoffice.com
>>>>>>>>> www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
>>>>>>>>> www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>> From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>>>>>>>>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 7:46 AM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [WISPA] Service vehicle
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What does everyone use for a service vehicle?  We have an  
>>>>>>>>>> 1999
>>>>>>>>>> f250
>>>>>>>>>> that is at the end of it's road.  It has the cabinets and
>>>>>>>>>> ladder racks
>>>>>>>>>> to put al our stuff in.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Our tower climber for those picky tower owners has a brand  
>>>>>>>>>> new
>>>>>>>>>> Dodge.
>>>>>>>>>> If you haven't seen these check them out.  If we could afford
>>>>>>>>>> these I
>>>>>>>>>> wouldn't be asking :(
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it,
>>>>>>>>>> poorly.
>>>>>>>>>> --- Henry Spencer
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
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