Since we're on the subject, and RouterOS, what priorities do you put
on your traffic? Web, pop3, smtp, dns, icmp, ssl, ftp, snmp, etc...
-RickG

On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Dennis Burgess
<[email protected]> wrote:
> RouterOS can identify Skype at layer 7 as well. .
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>> The problem I'm having is Skype is not impossible to detect, but it is
>> difficult and some QoS mechanisms miss it because it's designed to be
>> hard to detect and stop so it can slip out networks where the admin
>> tries to block IM apps. The better network security devices and detect
>> and filter or QoS it. But Skype doesn't use TOS or other QoS
>> prioritizing bits and it greatly varies the ports it uses in an effort
>> to not reveal itself. It's really quite amazing, if you have an
>> internet connection but you have a DNS issue (no DNS info being
>> propagated by DHCP for example) it will still find it's way out and
>> connect. It's one quick indication of a good network with bad DNS.
>>
>> Another problem is the newer P2P apps do likewise (random ports,
>> nondescript packets/data) in an effort to prevent ISP operators from
>> blocking or limiting it. So it's a continual game of cat and mouse
>> between the program authors and the net admin folks trying to detect
>> and control these things.
>>
>> Greg
>>
>> On Feb 13, 2009, at 9:59 AM, Eric Rogers wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Have you done any packet captures?  If it is a small site, you might
>>> be
>>> able to look at the TOS bit and prioritize accordingly.  If you see a
>>> DSCP (TOS) of 46, I assume it is VoIP and tag it for queues.  In
>>> Mikrotik, there is a "connection type" option, and SIP is one of the
>>> options.  I also tag that one and set it to VoIP for the QoS rules.
>>>
>>> It gets most traffic, but don't know about Skype.
>>>
>>> Eric
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
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>>> Behalf Of [email protected]
>>> Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 8:18 AM
>>> To: WISPA General List
>>> Subject: [WISPA] RouterOS x86 for Skype QoS?
>>>
>>> Does anyone have experience using RouterOS (on RouterBoard or x86) for
>>> doing Skype QoS? I've been trying many different Linux based servers
>>> (ZeroShell, pfsense, Endian, ClarkConnect specifically for achieving
>>> good QoS with Skype - more specifically to keep the P2P stuff from
>>> killing Skype - and so far nothing is performing as well as little
>>> router with Tomato firmware and it's QoS. The problem is having the
>>> layer 7 sniffer properly detect and categorize Skype and uTorrent. I'm
>>> getting ready to try RouterOS (x86) and Wolverine.
>>>
>>> Does anyone have any success stories?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> Greg
>>>
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