I STRONGLY suggest you put email at 2 if voip is going to be 1.  DNS can
stay at 1, though.  You don't need jitter every time someone sends or
receives an email message.

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On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 7:32 AM, <os10ru...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I put dns, email (ports 25, 110, 143, 465, 587, 993, 995) and voip
> (sip, h323, skype) at the top or maybe email just below voip and dns;
> web ssl and uncategorized in the middle of the range; and p2p at the
> bottom.
>
> Greg
> On Feb 13, 2009, at 11:09 PM, RickG wrote:
>
> > Since we're on the subject, and RouterOS, what priorities do you put
> > on your traffic? Web, pop3, smtp, dns, icmp, ssl, ftp, snmp, etc...
> > -RickG
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Dennis Burgess
> > <dmburg...@linktechs.net> wrote:
> >> RouterOS can identify Skype at layer 7 as well. .
> >>
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> >> os10ru...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>> The problem I'm having is Skype is not impossible to detect, but
> >>> it is
> >>> difficult and some QoS mechanisms miss it because it's designed to
> >>> be
> >>> hard to detect and stop so it can slip out networks where the admin
> >>> tries to block IM apps. The better network security devices and
> >>> detect
> >>> and filter or QoS it. But Skype doesn't use TOS or other QoS
> >>> prioritizing bits and it greatly varies the ports it uses in an
> >>> effort
> >>> to not reveal itself. It's really quite amazing, if you have an
> >>> internet connection but you have a DNS issue (no DNS info being
> >>> propagated by DHCP for example) it will still find it's way out and
> >>> connect. It's one quick indication of a good network with bad DNS.
> >>>
> >>> Another problem is the newer P2P apps do likewise (random ports,
> >>> nondescript packets/data) in an effort to prevent ISP operators from
> >>> blocking or limiting it. So it's a continual game of cat and mouse
> >>> between the program authors and the net admin folks trying to detect
> >>> and control these things.
> >>>
> >>> Greg
> >>>
> >>> On Feb 13, 2009, at 9:59 AM, Eric Rogers wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Have you done any packet captures?  If it is a small site, you
> >>>> might
> >>>> be
> >>>> able to look at the TOS bit and prioritize accordingly.  If you
> >>>> see a
> >>>> DSCP (TOS) of 46, I assume it is VoIP and tag it for queues.  In
> >>>> Mikrotik, there is a "connection type" option, and SIP is one of
> >>>> the
> >>>> options.  I also tag that one and set it to VoIP for the QoS rules.
> >>>>
> >>>> It gets most traffic, but don't know about Skype.
> >>>>
> >>>> Eric
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-
> >>>> boun...@wispa.org]
> >>>> On
> >>>> Behalf Of os10ru...@gmail.com
> >>>> Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 8:18 AM
> >>>> To: WISPA General List
> >>>> Subject: [WISPA] RouterOS x86 for Skype QoS?
> >>>>
> >>>> Does anyone have experience using RouterOS (on RouterBoard or
> >>>> x86) for
> >>>> doing Skype QoS? I've been trying many different Linux based
> >>>> servers
> >>>> (ZeroShell, pfsense, Endian, ClarkConnect specifically for
> >>>> achieving
> >>>> good QoS with Skype - more specifically to keep the P2P stuff from
> >>>> killing Skype - and so far nothing is performing as well as little
> >>>> router with Tomato firmware and it's QoS. The problem is having the
> >>>> layer 7 sniffer properly detect and categorize Skype and
> >>>> uTorrent. I'm
> >>>> getting ready to try RouterOS (x86) and Wolverine.
> >>>>
> >>>> Does anyone have any success stories?
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks!
> >>>> Greg
> >>>>
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