Mr. Larsen,
Thanks. I've heard very good things about StarOS as well. It
certainly has it's devotees. But as you mentioned Valemount doesn't
have the presence in the marketplace that Mikrotik has and that makes
me wonder what kind of position Valemount will be in a number of years
down the road. I don't change my equipment because of growing demand,
I tend to use it till its end of life so I think about long term
support and firmware updates etc.
I will give StarOS a good look before I make any decision.
I'm hoping that as the Ubiquiti line matures they'll incorporate some
of the better features of RouterOS and StarOS though maybe they plan
to just stay in the simple AP and CPE market rather that compete head
to head with Mikrotik and Valemount.
Greg
On Feb 17, 2009, at 5:50 PM, Matt Larsen - Lists wrote:
> Don't drink the Mikrotik kool-aid just yet. You should probably give
> some consideration to StarOS. StarOS has an excellent industry
> standard mesh routing protocol built in - OLSR - and the popular X4000
> platform is very low cost (~$350 or so in a four radio configuration).
>
> I tried Mikrotik and went back to StarOS because I saw much better
> performance and maintainability for the wireless networks that I
> design
> and operate. Actual StarOS documentation is kind of sparse, but it
> uses a lot of standard Linux packages (OSLR, OSPF, quagga, cbq,
> iptables) that are well documented.
>
> Unfortunately, StarOS has not done a very good job of getting people
> trained or setting up good relationships with vendors, so you don't
> hear
> about it as much any more. For what I do, it is better than Mikrotik
> and I'm very happy with it.
>
> Matt Larsen
> [email protected]
>
>
> [email protected] wrote:
>> Mr. Burgess and the others who responded - thanks!
>>
>> I just downloaded Winbox and I'll be trying it with the x86 version
>> on
>> an old PC first.
>>
>> Mikrotik seems inevitable if one's network progresses beyond the
>> something very small and simple. Thanks for the push!
>>
>> Greg
>>
>> On Feb 17, 2009, at 11:08 AM, Dennis Burgess wrote:
>>
>>
>>> The winbox interface will do everything you need in the mesh setup.
>>> If
>>> you want a turn key solution, its not what you are going to use. I
>>> can
>>> see that as you want something you plug in and it does magic,
>>> maybe. lol.
>>>
>>> There is no scripting that is needed in mikrotik, and like I said,
>>> you
>>> can use Winbox for all configuration changes. The web interface is
>>> not
>>> the way to go at all. There is a on-line Wiki, and a manual on-
>>> line
>>> that will tell you what you need to know, but you have to know how
>>> to
>>> implement it. its not "paste it in" and magic happens.
>>>
>>> As far as making the leap, man I don't think so. Eje I am sure
>>> would
>>> agree there?
>>>
>>> * -----------------------------------------------------------
>>> Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer
>>> WISPA Board Member - wispa.org <http://www.wispa.org/>
>>> Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services
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>>> [email protected] wrote:
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>>>> Mr. Burgess,
>>>>
>>>> What frightens me about taking the leap into Mikrotik is it
>>>> appears
>>>> the web interface is of no use in the advanced configuration and it
>>>> sounds like one must get heavily into the CLI and scripting. I
>>>> don't
>>>> see an online repository of scripts for programming or even a
>>>> highly
>>>> detailed help/wiki online. I'm guessing too many people are making
>>>> too
>>>> much money doing their Mikrotik training to give it away for
>>>> free. So
>>>> because of the apparently steep learning curve I'm leery to make
>>>> the
>>>> leap. The more easily configurable (and less powerful) solutions
>>>> such
>>>> as Ubiquiti look more appealing to me at this point.
>>>>
>>>> Would you disagree with my perspective? Is making the leap not
>>>> that
>>>> bad?
>>>>
>>>> Greg
>>>> On Feb 17, 2009, at 10:21 AM, Dennis Burgess wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Ya, don't know why ya don't want a MT solution. Been there done
>>>>> that
>>>>> and it works :)
>>>>>
>>>>> * -----------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer
>>>>> WISPA Board Member - wispa.org <http://www.wispa.org/>
>>>>> Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services
>>>>> WISPA Vendor Member*
>>>>> *Office*: 314-735-0270 *Website*: http://www.linktechs.net
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>>>>> [email protected] wrote:
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>>>>>
>>>>>> MT and a consultant ;)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> /me laughing while running for cover
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Scott Vander Dussen <[email protected]>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 21:13:03
>>>>>> To: WISPA General List<[email protected]>
>>>>>> Subject: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Looking to deploy a small mesh network downtown in a small city
>>>>>> just for kicks. Low budget ($4k for ~10 nodes) - just want to
>>>>>> get
>>>>>> my feet wet and have some fun.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd charge for the service if it was easy enough to do and it
>>>>>> worked good enough to justify a cost, otherwise free. Was hoping
>>>>>> there is was a turn-key solution (PLEASE don't suggest Mikrotik
>>>>>> - I
>>>>>> could ask for a recommendation on how to remove chest hair and
>>>>>> someone will mention MT). Anyhow, turn-key like Meraki
>>>>>> advertises
>>>>>> would be cool. How about the Pico2HP - is there a firmware that
>>>>>> works on those that could mesh? Very new to mesh - thanks in
>>>>>> advance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> `S
>>>>>>
>>>>>> PS- Please don't hijack the thread defending how great MT is and
>>>>>> how it can save the world etc.. not bashing, just want plug+play
>>>>>> which != MT. (:
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