How about StarOS Paul D. Kralovec
President Unplugged Cities, LLC 511 11th Ave. S Suite 241 Minneapolis, MN 55415 W: 763-235-3001 F: 763-647-7998 C: 952-270-9107 www.unpluggedcities.com -----Original Message----- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 8:54 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks There are pluses & minuses to each platform (Mikrotik & StarOS), but if you want simple, StarOS is it. -RickG On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 5:20 PM, Matt Larsen - Lists <li...@manageisp.com> wrote: > Don't drink the Mikrotik kool-aid just yet. You should probably give > some consideration to StarOS. StarOS has an excellent industry > standard mesh routing protocol built in - OLSR - and the popular X4000 > platform is very low cost (~$350 or so in a four radio configuration). > > I tried Mikrotik and went back to StarOS because I saw much better > performance and maintainability for the wireless networks that I design > and operate. Actual StarOS documentation is kind of sparse, but it > uses a lot of standard Linux packages (OSLR, OSPF, quagga, cbq, > iptables) that are well documented. > > Unfortunately, StarOS has not done a very good job of getting people > trained or setting up good relationships with vendors, so you don't hear > about it as much any more. For what I do, it is better than Mikrotik > and I'm very happy with it. > > Matt Larsen > mlar...@inventivemedia.net > > > os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: >> Mr. Burgess and the others who responded - thanks! >> >> I just downloaded Winbox and I'll be trying it with the x86 version on >> an old PC first. >> >> Mikrotik seems inevitable if one's network progresses beyond the >> something very small and simple. Thanks for the push! >> >> Greg >> >> On Feb 17, 2009, at 11:08 AM, Dennis Burgess wrote: >> >> >>> The winbox interface will do everything you need in the mesh setup. >>> If >>> you want a turn key solution, its not what you are going to use. I can >>> see that as you want something you plug in and it does magic, >>> maybe. lol. >>> >>> There is no scripting that is needed in mikrotik, and like I said, you >>> can use Winbox for all configuration changes. The web interface is >>> not >>> the way to go at all. There is a on-line Wiki, and a manual on-line >>> that will tell you what you need to know, but you have to know how to >>> implement it. its not "paste it in" and magic happens. >>> >>> As far as making the leap, man I don't think so. Eje I am sure would >>> agree there? >>> >>> * ----------------------------------------------------------- >>> Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer >>> WISPA Board Member - wispa.org <http://www.wispa.org/> >>> Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services >>> WISPA Vendor Member* >>> *Office*: 314-735-0270 *Website*: http://www.linktechs.net >>> <http://www.linktechs.net/> >>> */LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training/* >>> <http://www.linktechs.net/onlinetraining.asp> >>> >>> The information transmitted (including attachments) is covered by >>> the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. 2510-2521, is >>> intended only for the person(s) or entity/entities to which >>> it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged >>> material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, >>> or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by >>> persons or entities other than the intended recipient(s) is >>> prohibited, If you >>> received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the >>> material from any computer. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: >>> >>>> Mr. Burgess, >>>> >>>> What frightens me about taking the leap into Mikrotik is it appears >>>> the web interface is of no use in the advanced configuration and it >>>> sounds like one must get heavily into the CLI and scripting. I don't >>>> see an online repository of scripts for programming or even a highly >>>> detailed help/wiki online. I'm guessing too many people are making >>>> too >>>> much money doing their Mikrotik training to give it away for free. So >>>> because of the apparently steep learning curve I'm leery to make the >>>> leap. The more easily configurable (and less powerful) solutions such >>>> as Ubiquiti look more appealing to me at this point. >>>> >>>> Would you disagree with my perspective? Is making the leap not that >>>> bad? >>>> >>>> Greg >>>> On Feb 17, 2009, at 10:21 AM, Dennis Burgess wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Ya, don't know why ya don't want a MT solution. Been there done >>>>> that >>>>> and it works :) >>>>> >>>>> * ----------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer >>>>> WISPA Board Member - wispa.org <http://www.wispa.org/> >>>>> Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services >>>>> WISPA Vendor Member* >>>>> *Office*: 314-735-0270 *Website*: http://www.linktechs.net >>>>> <http://www.linktechs.net/> >>>>> */LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training/* >>>>> <http://www.linktechs.net/onlinetraining.asp> >>>>> >>>>> The information transmitted (including attachments) is covered by >>>>> the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. 2510-2521, is >>>>> intended only for the person(s) or entity/entities to which >>>>> it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged >>>>> material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, >>>>> or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by >>>>> persons or entities other than the intended recipient(s) is >>>>> prohibited, If you >>>>> received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the >>>>> material from any computer. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> e...@wisp-router.com wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> MT and a consultant ;) >>>>>> >>>>>> /me laughing while running for cover >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: Scott Vander Dussen <sc...@velociter.net> >>>>>> >>>>>> Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 21:13:03 >>>>>> To: WISPA General List<wireless@wispa.org> >>>>>> Subject: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Looking to deploy a small mesh network downtown in a small city >>>>>> just for kicks. Low budget ($4k for ~10 nodes) - just want to get >>>>>> my feet wet and have some fun. >>>>>> >>>>>> I'd charge for the service if it was easy enough to do and it >>>>>> worked good enough to justify a cost, otherwise free. Was hoping >>>>>> there is was a turn-key solution (PLEASE don't suggest Mikrotik - I >>>>>> could ask for a recommendation on how to remove chest hair and >>>>>> someone will mention MT). Anyhow, turn-key like Meraki advertises >>>>>> would be cool. How about the Pico2HP - is there a firmware that >>>>>> works on those that could mesh? Very new to mesh - thanks in >>>>>> advance. >>>>>> >>>>>> `S >>>>>> >>>>>> PS- Please don't hijack the thread defending how great MT is and >>>>>> how it can save the world etc.. not bashing, just want plug+play >>>>>> which != MT. (: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- >>>>>> WISPA Wants You! 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