The ONLY time I've suggested a high gain omni was in cases where the 
customers are at the same level as the antenna.  Things like down town 
deployments from a building that's no taller than the ones around it.

Or, sometimes inside a building where you need greater coverage on one 
floor.

marlon

----- Original Message ----- 
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Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 6:26 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower issue


> That is what he is saying. Avoid the high gain 15dB omnis unless you know 
> what you do and design system right. There are cases where a high gain 
> omni is well suited but more then likely a 12dB omni would work as well if 
> not better. You want to make sure your signal goes where your clients are 
> not send the main portion above them where it does no good.
>
> /Eje
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Rick Harnish" <[email protected]>
>
> Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 08:47:51
> To: 'WISPA General List'<[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower issue
>
>
> Actually, I disagree with Marlon on this one.  The higher the gain on the
> antenna, the narrower the beamwidth.  Therefore, many times your main lobe
> is shooting over the top of your clients.  We have had better success with
> lower gain omni's because the beamwidth is wider and more usable signal
> reaches the client radios.  I guess Marlon is correct if he means that the
> main lobe is shooting above (up) the clients, if that is what he meant, 
> then
> he is correct.
>
> Rick
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
> Behalf Of RickG
> Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 12:24 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower issue
>
> Marlon,
>
> I was thinking about what you said about high gain omni antennas sending
> more signal UP. With respect to direction, what's the difference between
> between a high gain unit and a lower gain unit?
>
> -RickG
>
> On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 10:34 PM, Marlon K. Schafer
> <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Not sure if it's related or not, but high gain omni antennas are usually 
>> a
>> great big no no.  They tend to send more signal UP than in the direction
> of
>> the customers.
>>
>> I'd replace it with an 8 or 9 db unit just on principal.  You'll probably
>> find that most customers will actually get a BETTER signal.
>>
>> laters,
>> marlon
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "RickG" <[email protected]>
>> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 7:23 PM
>> Subject: [WISPA] tower issue
>>
>>
>> > OK, here a good one! (aka, how I spent my weekend in a blizzard!)
>> >
>> > One of my towers has a single WARP/StarOS connected to a 5GHz grid for
>> > backhaul and a 15dBi omni for the local connections.
>> > On Saturday, after making some small changes, I rebooted it and it 
>> > would
>> > not
>> > allow me to connect via wireless any longer - or my customers :(
>> > So, I go to the tower, connect up via ethernet and everything is a 
>> > usual
>> > but
>> > I see all associations but only a few client have ip addresses. I can
>> ping
>> > the few clients but the packet loss is huge 80-90%. I then reload my
>> > backup
>> > but still get the same thing. I try changing channels, but still the
>> same.
>> > I
>> > then systematically begin replacing parts starting with the radio card.
>> > Eventually, I replaced EVERYTHING but still have the problem. One note:
>> > occasionally, twice of maybe three times, after a reboot, all came back
>> > normal. The third time, I left well enough alone for now but of course,
>> > you
>> > know what will happen the next time I reboot.
>> >
>> > Any ideas???
>> >
>> > -RickG
>> >
>> >
>> >
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