That would be the upcomming RB450G,
Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -----Original Message----- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 1:08 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 100 meg full duplex backhaul Then perhaps depending on port count required, the RB450 supports Gigabit, though I don't know what it's throughput is capable of. I'm not sure on the RB1000's outdoor ability. I'm not saying it's no good, I just don't know. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -------------------------------------------------- From: "Gino Villarini" <g...@aeronetpr.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 10:47 AM To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 100 meg full duplex backhaul > RB493 limits ports to 100 fdx, If he is going licensed, theradios might > be upgraded in the future to higher speeds... > > I would go RB1000 > > > Gino A. Villarini > g...@aeronetpr.com > Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. > tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 > > -----Original Message----- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Mike Hammett > Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 12:36 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] 100 meg full duplex backhaul > > Mikrotik makes pretty good gear. Depending on traffic, I'd put an > RB493AH in there. Should be able to do anything you needed to do > without great concern for the weather. > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Marlon K. Schafer" <o...@odessaoffice.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 10:19 AM > To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] 100 meg full duplex backhaul > >> Right. I get that part. But I've never used it out here so I don't >> know if it's a routing function or a bridging function like spanning >> tree. I'm trying to figure out what hardware would be best deployed >> at the tower sites. >> >> Part of what I'm trying to do is get a grip on long term costs. If I >> have to run sensitive routers vs. hardened switches it'll make a > difference. >> Adding heat and AC to the towers changes the annual costs quite a bit. >> >> thanks, >> marlon >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Mike Hammett" <wispawirel...@ics-il.net> >> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 7:53 AM >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 100 meg full duplex backhaul >> >> >>> OSPF is how you manage load sharing and load balancing. >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>> http://www.ics-il.com >>> >>> >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------- >>> From: "Marlon K. Schafer" <o...@odessaoffice.com> >>> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:36 AM >>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 100 meg full duplex backhaul >>> >>>> Certainly Jack. I don't know anyone that's built something like >>>> this already though. >>>> >>>> And, it's really not that far off from what we already do. It's >>>> just bigger and faster. >>>> >>>> I've not used the hardware needed for this system so I'm mostly >>>> interested in what people would install. I know there are a few >>>> people here that have very high speed backbone systems in place. >>>> >>>> The one part that's got me stumped so far is what to do to create a >>>> load sharing load balancing mechanism at the main towers. Should >>>> that be done via high end switch or router? >>>> >>>> If you know someone that would be good help in putting this idea >>>> together please feel free to have them contact me. Please note, >>>> that nothing will be able to happen at a nut and bolt specific level > >>>> until construction starts. The program is customer and land >>>> acquisition specific, not build it THIS way specific. Did I say >>>> that at all clearly? Does it make sense? >>>> That is part of why I've not even looked for help yet, there are far > >>>> more questions than plans in place. Things are still at a >>>> conceptual stage, but I'm trying to drill down a bit better. >>>> >>>> Thanks! >>>> marlon >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: Jack Unger >>>> To: WISPA General List >>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 10:06 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 100 meg full duplex backhaul >>>> >>>> >>>> Marlon, >>>> >>>> Trying to design a complex system like this via a listserve > "committee" >>>> is more than a little bit risky. Have you considered going to >>>> someone who actually has this type of network design experience and >>>> paying them to do the whole job right the first time? Just asking. >>>> >>>> jack >>>> >>>> >>>> Marlon K. Schafer wrote: >>>> I don't know if I'll be able to put some many antennas on the > towers. >>>> >>>> How close together would I need the towers to prevent the rain fade >>>> outage at 18 gig? >>>> >>>> Aren't there any 5.8 systems that will do this reliably in the first > >>>> place? >>>> I shouldn't need 5.x for distribution so I could use it all for >>>> backhaul. >>>> I'll have 2.4, 3.65, 4.9 and hopefully, someday, TVBD for the > consumers. >>>> marlon >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Brian Webster" <bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com> >>>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 9:44 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 100 meg full duplex backhaul >>>> >>>> >>>> The 5.8 GHz backup links will help you deal with outages due to >>>> environmental conditions such as rain fade. That has to be factored >>>> in for links when you operate above 10 GHz. Even if you run a loop >>>> configuration you could have a fade condition that could block out a > >>>> whole tower site severing your links to that location in both >>>> directions of your loop. >>>> Another path at a lower frequency with spatial diversity from your >>>> primary link (different mounting heights) would at least keep that >>>> site up though maybe not at full speed. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Thank You, >>>> Brian Webster >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org >>>> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]on >>>> Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer >>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 12:26 AM >>>> To: WISPA General List >>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 100 meg full duplex backhaul >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks. >>>> >>>> Do you think we need the unlicensed for each hop if the entire >>>> network is build in a circle? >>>> marlon >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Travis Johnson" <t...@ida.net> >>>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 9:12 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 100 meg full duplex backhaul >>>> >>>> >>>> Licensed 18ghz links with 5.8ghz backup links for each hop. >>>> Figure $15,000 per link for everything. >>>> >>>> Travis >>>> Microserv >>>> >>>> Marlon K. Schafer wrote: >>>> Hi All, >>>> >>>> I'm looking for some gear that'll be rock solid at 15 to 20 miles. >>>> Some links may be less, but I'm not counting on that. >>>> >>>> I'll be hauling public safety, private vpns, and normal internet >>>> traffic. >>>> >>>> I'll probably have around 20 towers, all linked in a ring. I can >>>> load share across the ring as long as speeds never drop below >>>> 100megs. I'll want things to be automatically self healing if there > >>>> is a loss of connectivity in any direction. >>>> >>>> What would you guys use/suggest? >>>> >>>> I'd love to go licensed (but no 6 gig due to antenna sizes) but >>>> unlicensed may be OK due to the failover capabilities. >>>> >>>> We have to worry about snow, fog and, worst of all, dust storms. >>>> >>>> What gear would you use? How would you set this up? >>>> >>>> I'm in the pricing stage so off list quotes etc. are welcome. 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