/rant on

Dealing with Arin is frustrating if you are a smaller provider in a market
where it's not cost effective to multi home.  Where many people might get a
DS3 for as little as $1500/mo or less, some may pay $3,000+/month.   For
those who are in more rural areas stuck paying high prices for their
connection to the backbone it's just not cost effective to multi home in the
beginning.  

If you are single homed you must use /20 (4096 IPs) before they will give
you an allocation.  I have had problems in the past with a similar situation
where a network was using 12 class c and the upstream refused to allocate
any more IPs saying we needed to go to ARIN.  ARIN would not do anything
until we were using a /20 so it became a chicken or the egg problem.   

The policy should be different for an ISP.   If you are a small ISP
multi-homed or not you should be able to get a /22.  It makes it hard for
the smaller provider to change backbone providers because their IP blocks
are non portable.

/rant off

Richey

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Cliff Olle
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 9:02 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN

I was told that I would have to have BGP and be multi-homed within 30 days
or they could revoke my IP's.  Would they allot a /20 in the case you are
only using 4 class Cs?

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Scott Piehn
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 7:29 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN

One add to the /22.  You need to be or plan to be running BGP.


Scott
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Thomas" <[email protected]>
To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 9:54 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN


> If you are multihomed you need to justify a /22 ( 4 Class C's) and if
> you are not, then you will need to justify a /20  ( 16 class C's)
>
> John
>
>
> Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
>> We probably need to get our own ip addys now.  We're using 4 class c's 
>> and
>> will need more pretty soon in one location.
>>
>> Anyone know a consultant that can help with the application process?
>>
>> marlon
>>
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