It would be possible to get a wireless link off the Sears Tower (no, I won't say the new name), but a DS3 delivered here is well over $5k.
The provider must always provide you with IPs, assuming you meet justification. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -------------------------------------------------- From: "Richey" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 10:39 AM To: "'WISPA General List'" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN > /rant on > > Dealing with Arin is frustrating if you are a smaller provider in a market > where it's not cost effective to multi home. Where many people might get > a > DS3 for as little as $1500/mo or less, some may pay $3,000+/month. For > those who are in more rural areas stuck paying high prices for their > connection to the backbone it's just not cost effective to multi home in > the > beginning. > > If you are single homed you must use /20 (4096 IPs) before they will give > you an allocation. I have had problems in the past with a similar > situation > where a network was using 12 class c and the upstream refused to allocate > any more IPs saying we needed to go to ARIN. ARIN would not do anything > until we were using a /20 so it became a chicken or the egg problem. > > The policy should be different for an ISP. If you are a small ISP > multi-homed or not you should be able to get a /22. It makes it hard for > the smaller provider to change backbone providers because their IP blocks > are non portable. > > /rant off > > Richey > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Cliff Olle > Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 9:02 AM > To: 'WISPA General List' > Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN > > I was told that I would have to have BGP and be multi-homed within 30 days > or they could revoke my IP's. Would they allot a /20 in the case you are > only using 4 class Cs? > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Scott Piehn > Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 7:29 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN > > One add to the /22. You need to be or plan to be running BGP. > > > Scott > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Thomas" <[email protected]> > To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 9:54 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN > > >> If you are multihomed you need to justify a /22 ( 4 Class C's) and if >> you are not, then you will need to justify a /20 ( 16 class C's) >> >> John >> >> >> Marlon K. Schafer wrote: >>> We probably need to get our own ip addys now. 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