Not so sure about the "smart" comment. Keep in mind it took the FCC until very 
recently to make up their mind how to "properly" test for radar. MikroTik have 
had the DFS feature in for some time (well before the DFS2 requirements) was 
even close to final iteration. When they had come out with their DFS feature 
even the big FCC test labs had no procedure in place to test DFS. 

So for seeing so early in their adaptation they got "burnt". Interesting and 
smart question is rather why have they not come out with and updated version is 
it because it's not doable or are they just simply working on it. I do not 
know. 

/Eje 
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-----Original Message-----
From: "Scott Carullo" <sc...@brevardwireless.com>

Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 10:25:00 
To: WISPA General List<wireless@wispa.org>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] is this router overloaded?



Besides the fact that MT should be smarter than to work on a feature that 
was not possible to achieve from the beginning...

Scott Carullo
Brevard Wireless
321-205-1100 x102

-------- Original Message --------
> From: "Tom DeReggi" <wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 10:19 AM
> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] is this router overloaded?
> 
> Eje,
> 
> >The way DFS is designed in MT it will never be
> > able to get certified.
> 
> Pleasse elaborate, thats a strong statement. If it were true it would 
means 
> that the DFS limit was hardware or 802.11a protocol based, because 
software 
> ALWAYS has the option to be changed and modified to meet a specific 
> requirements. I agree that MT's current DFS2 support would not pass FCC 
> certification. But I don't see why it couldn't be expanded to be 
> certifiable.
> 
> Tom DeReggi
> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Eje Gustafsson" <e...@wisp-router.com>
> To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org>
> Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 4:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] is this router overloaded?
> 
> 
> > And 5.2 is not allowed for outdoor usage. So Franks unit is an indoor 
unit 
> > I
> > would suspect he is suffering from multipath reflections.
> >
> > Besides on the radar stuff.. The way DFS is designed in MT it will 
never 
> > be
> > able to get certified. First of it must continuously look for and 
detect
> > radar not just when it first enable the interface. Secondly it at least 

> > did
> > a horrible job in actually detecting radar signatures.
> >
> > Besides 5.2 is not part of the band you can use even with a certified 
> > radar
> > detecting device.
> >
> > / Eje
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
On
> > Behalf Of Dennis Burgess - LTI
> > Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 3:32 PM
> > To: WISPA General List
> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] is this router overloaded?
> >
> > Part of the 5.2 band.  All of the radar patters are in MT, just not
> > certified.
> >
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> > Gino Villarini wrote:
> >> 5180.....hmmm!!!
> >>
> >> Not to bust anyones head but you are using an uncertified device on 
an
> >> illegal channel
> >>
> >> Sent from my Motorola Startac...
> >>
> >>
> >> On Apr 20, 2009, at 3:20 PM, "Josh Luthman"
> >> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> Gino - Top right corner.
> >>>
> >>> Did the CPU just jump or has it casually been like that?
> >>>
> >>> I've never had 5 radios in any board, I don't know if that would
> >>> cause a lot
> >>> of usage or not.  Most any MT box I've seen is <5% CPU.  A lot of
> >>> NAT as was
> >>> mentioned would be the first place I'd look.
> >>>
> >>> Josh Luthman
> >>> Office: 937-552-2340
> >>> Direct: 937-552-2343
> >>> 1100 Wayne St
> >>> Suite 1337
> >>> Troy, OH 45373
> >>>
> >>> Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, 
poorly.
> >>> --- Henry Spencer
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 3:14 PM, Kevin Neal <ke...@safelink.net>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Is this doing any NAT?  Is connection tracking enabled?  Do you
> >>>> have all
> >>>> unneeded packages disabled?  We have a few RB600's out there and
> >>>> they do
> >>>> fine for the most part, we don't do any wireless on the 600's and
> >>>> all of
> >>>> them have the 564 daughterboard in them.
> >>>>
> >>>> -Kevin Neal
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-
> >>>> boun...@wispa.org] On
> >>>> Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser
> >>>> Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 12:50 PM
> >>>> To: 'WISPA General List'
> >>>> Subject: [WISPA] is this router overloaded?
> >>>>
> >>>> I have a RB600 here that I've taken a screenshot of. No interfaces
> >>>> are
> >>>> bridged, everything is routed and I'm noticing some lag in the
> >>>> traffic that
> >>>> passes though this device during peak use. I suspect that the 41
> >>>> RIP routes
> >>>> might have something to do with it as actual throughput isn't that
> >>>> much
> >>>> sometimes topping out around 8Mbps. Just want to hear from others
> >>>> and if
> >>>> there is any suggestions on how I might speed this up let me know.
> >>>> CPU
> >>>> usage
> >>>> on it is around 40-50%.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Kurt Fankhauser
> >>>> WAVELINC
> >>>> P.O. Box 126
> >>>> Bucyrus, OH 44820
> >>>> 419-562-6405
> >>>> www.wavelinc.com
> >>>>
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