Everyone I've ever spoken with and myself agrees - indoor installs are not
something you want to do.

Josh Luthman
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On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 9:54 AM, Jason Hensley <jhens...@mozarks.com> wrote:

> We have quite a few indoor installs and I hate them.  There are many issues
> that you can't control:  access to the radio (as mentioned below),
> children,
> cleaning folks, dogs, etc etc.  We do our best not to do indoor installs,
> but we have particular apartment complex that won't let us install outside,
> so we have to put the CPE's in windows.  Some go in attics, but I wouldn't
> even consider doing an indoor install for anything over about 1/4 mile (and
> this is all 2.4Ghz).  Our signal seems inconsistent at best sometimes, etc
> etc.
>
> I agree that you're opening a can of worms you might not want.  I would
> highly advise against it unless you just HAVE to do it to get the customer,
> but even then I would think hard about it.
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of 3-dB Networks
> Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 5:21 PM
> To: 'WISPA General List'
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Indoor CPE install / window glass type determination
>
> I would advise against doing it.  If the CPE is inside it makes fixing
> customer problems harder (especially 900MHz/2.4GHz since the noise has even
> less barriers to the CPE) and makes it that the customer has to be home to
> work on the CPE or to deinstall the CPE.
>
> Sounds like your opening up a can of worms... and I'm not sure what the
> gain
> would be (sure quicker installs, but the customer is paying for that
> right?).  I cringe at the thought of customer installed CPE's...
>
> With that said I have installed Canopy SM's through windows occasionally
> for
> special circumstances and have had little issues with them... besides of
> course tinted windows or energy efficient windows (but depending on
> distance
> it might not be an issue).
>
> I've even deployed 2.4GHz Wi-Fi based gear in attics with absolutely
> no-LOS... once again not recommended but you gotta do what you gotta do
> sometimes.
>
> Daniel White
> 3-dB Networks
> http://www.3dbnetworks.com
>
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> >Behalf Of rabbtux rabbtux
> >Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 4:08 PM
> >To: WISPA General List
> >Subject: [WISPA] Indoor CPE install / window glass type determination
> >
> >All,
> >
> >Thinking of doing simple indoor installs for short clients < 1mi.  Is
> >anyone
> >else doing this? any tips or suggestions?
> >
> >I have seen what happens when a home has 'low e' windows!  Having lead
> >in
> >the glass makes a very effective microwave shield.  Is there an easy way
> >to
> >identify these windows in a home?  Would be nice to find out from
> >customer
> >ahead of time if possible.  is there a simple tool for the installer to
> >save
> >time identifying these windows?
> >
> >Thanks in Advance,
> >
> >Marshall
> >Rabbit Meadows Technology
> >
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