This is an interesting conversation, the next question is, say you have 
a MDU, 200 condos.  The condo complex upon being built agreed to have 
you as the internet provider.  Now, lets say you want to use the 
existing cable system (the privately owned coax in the building to  
EVERY condo).  no prob, you drop in a headend and start going, now the 
cable company wants to come in and offer cable TV.  now that normally is 
not an issue, but if they have their own headend (and they won't tell 
you, you will have to know if they offer it in the area prior), in many 
cases there is no agreement with the cable co and the building owners, 
its just an amenity.

So, if you have a contact with the condo, can you tell them that the 
cable company has to provide a filter coax tv service with no DOCSIS ?  
MOst cases the cable company will just say screw you.  But its the same 
thing with a tower lease.   But then is this worth fighting with the 
prosperity owners?

Jerry Richardson wrote:
> I have tried to get service to potential customers in Bishop Ranch. They make 
> it almost impossible. Have to use their contractors to install the dish and 
> run the cables, no access to telco rooms, etc.
>
> They are bastards.
>
> Jerry Richardson
> airCloud Communications
> Sent from mobile device
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Thomas <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 6:26 PM
> To: WISPA General List <[email protected]>
> Subject: [WISPA] Service Limits
>
> I realize that is the way it is supposed to happen, but that hasn't 
> happened here.
> We have Office space in Bishop Ranch, San Ramon CA. We are not allowed 
> in the MPOE, and apparently others aren't either. We have been able to 
> get T-1s pulled in, and then we gave handed the authorized personnel the 
> other end of our Cat 5 to punch down and connect our Service Providers 
> T-1's. When we asked Time Warner about the fiber, they sent us a map, 
> showing fiber at the sidewalk, less than 100 feet away, and they claimed 
> that Bishop Ranch wouldn't lt them in the MPOE, so they couldn't 
> deliver. Maybe someone has bogus information?
>
> John
>
>
> Mike Hammett wrote:
>   
>> If you want their service, they can't restrict you, AFAIK.
>>
>>
>> -----
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>>
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "John Thomas" <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 9:57 PM
>> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] I need a few people to run a bandwidth test 
>> tomeplease...> As they say, your mileage may vary....   We have a 2xT1 that 
>> we pay $560
>>   
>>     
>>> per month for, and the routing/peering at TW Telecom is good, but then
>>> again, we are in the San Francisco Bay Area. If the building owners
>>> would have let TW Telecom into this buildings MPOE's we would have a 10
>>> meg fiber circuit and be paying about $700 for it. The fiber is at the
>>> curb, but Bishop Ranch won't let TW Telecom in....
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>>
>>> Matt Liotta wrote:
>>>     
>>>       
>>>> Personally, I wouldn't go with TW Telecom for bandwidth. They tend to
>>>> be overly pricy and their peering is too selective. In a case where
>>>> the city you are located in doesn't have good peering such as Orlando
>>>> you need to carefully select your upstream. In the case of TW Telecom,
>>>> they have hardly any peers in Atlanta, which is the closest major
>>>> peering point to you. This causes most of your US based traffic to
>>>> flow through Ashburn or Dallas.
>>>>
>>>> -Matt
>>>>
>>>> On May 14, 2009, at 9:48 PM, Scott Carullo wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>>>> Just download a file via http from our web server at
>>>>> http://208.65.55.55/dummy.zip
>>>>> and then
>>>>> http://64.128.251.33/dummy.zip
>>>>>
>>>>> Then email me with how fast each went and a traceroute from you to
>>>>> just one
>>>>> of the servers please (they take same route).
>>>>>
>>>>> If you are not capable of downloading at 20MB on the Internet then
>>>>> the data
>>>>> is not too useful for me...
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you I appreciate your time and assistance.
>>>>>
>>>>> Scott Carullo
>>>>> Brevard Wireless
>>>>> 321-205-1100 x102
>>>>>
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