Agreed. I don't intend on buying anything Cisco. Over priced, under performing, and their "we will screw you whether you like it or not" policies. No thanks, someone else, please.
Thankfully all I had to purchase was a couple of VoIP phones to encounter that problem vs. routing equipment. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -------------------------------------------------- From: "jp" <j...@saucer.midcoast.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 4:21 PM To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Cisco 7200 Gigabit Ethernet Cards? > Cisco isn't going to provide legal advice or legal fact. That's what our > own lawyers are for. It's easier to use something else than to try to > legally challenge cisco. > > If they have a policy for it, it means it's likely a common problem and > they want a uniform response to it from their company and distributors. > Just like we have an AUP that we expect our users to be to comply with. > > I haven't bought any cisco routers for a long time because of this, new > or used. > > On Wed, Jun 03, 2009 at 05:09:05PM -0400, Matt Liotta wrote: >> That is a policy statement. It is not legal fact. >> >> -Matt >> >> On Jun 3, 2009, at 4:31 PM, Jeff Broadwick wrote: >> >> >> From Cisco's own website: >> > >> > Policy: >> > Cisco's current policy is that Software is not transferable without >> > Cisco's >> > prior written consent and payment of any license fee ("License Fee") >> > unless >> > one of the exceptions below in the "Exceptions" section applies. >> > Regardless >> > of whether a License Fee is payable under this Policy, the >> > transferee may be >> > required to pay Service inspection or reinstatement fees in >> > accordance with >> > Cisco policies located here. >> > >> > http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/cisco_software_transfer_relicensing_policy.h >> > tml >> > >> > Jeff >> > ImageStream >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] >> > On >> > Behalf Of Matt Liotta >> > Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 4:20 PM >> > To: WISPA General List >> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Cisco 7200 Gigabit Ethernet Cards? >> > >> > That was worthless... don't take your word, take some some blogger's >> > word. >> > >> > -Matt >> > >> > On Jun 3, 2009, at 4:03 PM, Jeff Broadwick wrote: >> > >> >> It's not FUD Matt. It's real. I have a pricelist from them with the >> >> fees required to relicense gear...might as well buy the new ones. >> >> Don't take my >> >> word: >> >> >> >> http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/14756 >> >> >> >> Jeff >> >> ImageStream >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] >> >> On >> >> Behalf Of Matt Liotta >> >> Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 3:53 PM >> >> To: WISPA General List >> >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Cisco 7200 Gigabit Ethernet Cards? >> >> >> >> >> >> On Jun 3, 2009, at 3:49 PM, David E. Smith wrote: >> >> >> >>> Did Cisco ever come to their senses on IOS licensing? Used to be, >> >>> the >> >>> software on a Cisco router was licensed to an entity separate from >> >>> the >> >>> purchase of the hardware. Thus, if you bought a router "used," its >> >>> (already-installed) copy of IOS was unlicensed and you'd have to >> >>> buy a >> >>> new software license to use the router. >> >>> >> >> That is FUD from competing vendors. >> >> >> >> -Matt >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> ---- >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> ---- >> >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > ---- >> >> WISPA Wants You! 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