You can not have the regular interface on 20mhz and anything different
on a VirtualAP.  Add a new virtualap and look at your options.  It's
really just ssid with duplicated wireless settings.

You may want to call Butch or test it yourself but I think setting
each station to a different mode and channel, then the ap, should
work.

On 7/1/09, Brian Rohrbacher <[email protected]> wrote:
> Is it possible to do a virtual ap in Mikrotik that uses the smaller channels
> so I can put new subs on that?
>
> Brian
>
> Kurt Fankhauser wrote:
>>
>> Tranzeo gear supports 10mhz and 5mhz channels on their radios made in the
>> last 2 years. I am using them in 10mhz channels talking to a Mikrotik AP
>> and
>> it works great!
>>
>> Kurt Fankhauser
>> WAVELINC
>> P.O. Box 126
>> Bucyrus, OH 44820
>> 419-562-6405
>> www.wavelinc.com
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
>> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 11:51 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Antenna Performance
>>
>> What 802.11 gear doesn't?  Tranzeo maybe..?
>>
>> On 6/30/09, RickG <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Thats a great idea! Of course, you gotta have equipment that supports
>>> smaller channels. Egads, another items for my "to do list"!
>>> Thanks! -RickG
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 9:57 PM, Josh
>>> Luthman<[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> That's assuming you're using 2.4 and 20mhz channels.  I feel it is
>>>> only wise to use 10 or even 5 mhz channels.
>>>>
>>>> You drop those laptops that can see the AP and think they can get
>>>> service.  You cut interference in half and focus the power in half the
>>>> bandwidth (bit more coverage!).  You can only use things that can use
>>>> the smaller channels.
>>>>
>>>> On 6/30/09, RickG <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> After my last comment on this about the omni, I'm hesitant to give out
>>>>> advise but here it goes anyway:
>>>>> My worst operating tower is quad-sectored. With 2.4GHz it's best to
>>>>> stick with tri-sectors since you only have 3 non-over channels. Just
>>>>> my two cents worth...
>>>>> -RickG
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 2:46 PM, Robert
>>>>> West<[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I decided to just upgrade the whole thing and install sector antennas.
>>>>>> It'll eventually go that way anyhow.  This spot is the farthest out we
>>>>>> reach
>>>>>> but last week, out of nowhere, the calls started to come in from that
>>>>>> area
>>>>>> asking about service so I guess a real upgrade is in order.  I have a
>>>>>> set
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> 2.4 sector antennas that have been sitting around unused so I guess
>>>>>>
>>
>> that
>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> can
>>>>>> be the home for them.  The 5.8 however, any suggestions on that for
>>>>>> sector?
>>>>>> Again, going into the 600a routerboard, R5H cards.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My 2.4ghz sector antennas are 90 degree, so we'll be using 4.  If we
>>>>>>
>>
>> use
>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1
>>>>>> card for each sector on the 2.4, then go with 3 antennas for the 5.8
>>>>>>
>>
>> and
>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> use
>>>>>> our Ubiquiti XR5 for the backhaul, that's going to fill up all 8 slots
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> the 600a.  Never been to that point before, will our 48v POE run this
>>>>>> whole
>>>>>> thing or should I just add another routerboard for the 5.8 and the
>>>>>> backhaul?
>>>>>> My head is telling me to just add the board but the wallet is running
>>>>>> away
>>>>>> from me............
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>>>> On
>>>>>> Behalf Of Curtis Maurand
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 11:14 AM
>>>>>> To: WISPA General List
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Antenna Performance
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>
>> http://www.radiolabs.com/products/antennas/2.4gig/2.4-aluminum-parabolic.php
>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you've got to go 10 miles, then you need gain.
>>>>>>  From the website.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *2.4 GHz 24db Directional Parabolic Grid WiFi Antenna*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *The Directional High Gain WiFi Parabolic Grid* WiFi Antenna offers
>>>>>> 24dBi gain at the connector and a tight 8 Degree beamwidth. The high
>>>>>> gain wifi antenna is an aluminum die cast which is then powder coat
>>>>>> painted for added environmental protection. Because of its grid design
>>>>>> the antenna offers excellent wind loading characteristics.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Michael Baird wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Marlon,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not sure what you are saying here. According to the vendors
>>>>>>> specificatons.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Teletronics 15-124 - 19DB horizontal w/8 degree vertical beamwidth.
>>>>>>> Tranzeo TR-24H-120-16 - 16DB horizontal w/6 degree vertical
>>>>>>> beamwidth.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes it is odd that the Teletronics claims a higher VB, but then again
>>>>>>> it, it cost a lot more and should be a better antenna, as I believe
>>>>>>> gain
>>>>>>> not only comes with narrowing coverage (sector width), but antenna
>>>>>>> design.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>> Michael Baird
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Gain only comes from narrowing coverage with antennas.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If there are both 120* antennas you can't have HIGHER gain with
>>>>>>>> GREATER
>>>>>>>> coverage....  It takes half the coverage area go give you twice the
>>>>>>>> power
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> (3DB of gain).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>
>> http://www.odessaoffice.com/wireless/antenna/how_to_pick_the_right_antenna.h
>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> tm
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> laters,
>>>>>>>> marlon
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: "Michael Baird" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 2:32 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Antenna Performance
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Not ,the same downtilt angle, same percentage as the old one. The
>>>>>>>>> previous antenna was a Tranzeo 16db w/6 degree vertical, the
>>>>>>>>> Teletronics
>>>>>>>>> 19db has a 8 degree vertical actually larger VB then the 16db at 6.
>>>>>>>>> They
>>>>>>>>> are both at .3 degrees downtilt. The only reason I mention the VSWR
>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> because the teletronics VSWR is 1.1:4, vs 1.5 on the Tranzeo. The
>>>>>>>>> Teletronics is down about 6db on the CPE side for all the clients
>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> test sector, on the AP side it's the same. I tested multiple tilt's
>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>> well, between 0-1 degree was the best on the CPE side.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>> Michael Baird
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> First thing that comes to my mind reading your post is that you
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> installed
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>> higher gain antenna which means your vertical beam is going to be
>>>>>>>>>> narrower
>>>>>>>>>> (sometimes higher gain is not always better). Being that you
>>>>>>>>>> installed
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> antenna with the same down tilt angle your missing the mark
>>>>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>> a narrower vertical beam.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> As for the VSWR nothing really considered too low. If your VSWR is
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> higher
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> then 1.5:1 then you have a problem for sure.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Personally never used or tested TT's 15-124 antenna but have sold
>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>> few
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>> them with no complaints on it as far as I know.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>> From: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>
>>
>> [mailto:[email protected]]
>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On
>>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Michael Baird
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 8:33 AM
>>>>>>>>>> To: WISPA General List
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [WISPA] Antenna Performance
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I picked up a Teletronics 15-124 19db horizontal antenna for
>>>>>>>>>>
>>
>> testing
>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> and
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> deployed it in place of a Tranzeo 16db Horizontal (TilTek?), using
>>>>>>>>>> same
>>>>>>>>>> pigtail and radio. With the clients on this sector, the AP side is
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> same, but the CPE receive side seems to have suffered with this
>>>>>>>>>> larger
>>>>>>>>>> antenna. Nothing was changed other then the antenna, aimed to the
>>>>>>>>>> exact
>>>>>>>>>> same degree, tilted the same percentage of vertical tilt, and so
>>>>>>>>>> forth.
>>>>>>>>>> I'm thinking the antenna isn't very good, or it's VSWR is too low
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> I'm getting some power reflected from the antenna. Anybody have
>>>>>>>>>> experience with this antenna, or these scenarios?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I expected this bigger, more expensive antenna to gain all across
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> board.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>> Michael Baird
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
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