OK, I held my nose and signed up.  We'll see what happens.

thanks,
marlon

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ryan Ghering" <rgher...@gmail.com>
To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 7:12 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT Hotmail email black hole


> Marlon,
>
>  That is a weekly ordeal for ourselves. Customers that don't update
> Anti-virus or goto "questionable sites"
> get botnets that spam the world. Hotmail/MSN/LIVE is the first to block 
> you.
> Getting off their blacklists is nearly impossible
> unless you follow thier rules even then it takes weeks. They have no
> postmaster contacts to speak of anymore.
>
> We had to subscribe to the Smart Network Data Services Program.
> https://postmaster.live.com/snds/
>
> Then follow the rules listed. I hated doing it but we actually started
> loosing customers due to not being able to send to the largest spam host 
> in
> the world...
>
> Sorry I can't be any better help just know that others feel your pain...
>
> Thanks
> Ryan
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 11:57 PM, Marlon K. Schafer 
> <o...@odessaoffice.com>wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Hotmail has put us on some kind of black list.  Messages from my servers 
>> to
>> anyone with a hotmail (or affiliate) address is being sent into oblivion.
>>
>> Contacting Hotmail has been nearly useless.  They've simply told me to go
>> join a special program that they have and that'll get my system ok'd 
>> again.
>>
>> Sorry, but I'm NOT giving them customer information or money in order to
>> fix
>> this.
>>
>> Does anyone know anyone that doesn't have his head up his wazzoo at that
>> org?  Anyone else been successful at getting off of the black list there?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> marlon
>>
>>
>>
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