It should be noted that.... 1) Middle mile projects dont have as difficult reporting requirements, 2) Accounting/Tracking systems to fullfill tracking requirements can be included in grant proposal.
Accountiong for the data is hard only because we don;t have systems in palce to account for it. But if support was there from day one to track it automatically, I'm not sure its that big a problem. For example, If I were a billing provisioning sytem software developer, I'd be writing BTOP reporting compliance into my software ASAP. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert West" <[email protected]> To: "'WISPA General List'" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 4:17 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] just attended broadband stimulus seminar and WOW..... > But a lot of these companies are government regulated already and have to > abide by certain amounts of transparency due to various regulations and > agreements. Some have even gone TOO far in doing as they are told, i.e. > the > 911 wiretaps. Just an extreme example. But I know what you're saying. I > don't imagine some big company grabbing the cash and swooping in and > taking > us all over. But the spirit of the Rural Electrification Act of 1936 this > isn't. The idea is to provide broadband access to every corner of the > U.S. > In 1936 they had co-ops formed who all worked together for the common > goal. > The only people I have had contact me have been the "Connect Ohio" bunch > who > do the same meetings in the other states and from whom I receive a monthly > newsletter with pictures of them with various politicians and > representatives from the major telecoms and not much info on how to get > this > goal accomplished. > > A few years ago I lived in Niagara Falls New York. The economy there > absolutely sucks so the county was awarding a grant to some unknown > company > to come in and provide wireless internet to the entire county. I don't > remember the dollar amount but it was HUGE. The local WISP, yes, there > was > already a company who was providing the larger populated areas with > wireless, he was never considered. The county supposedly thought that > some > bigger outfit from out of the area would do a better job. The local guy, > I > believe, was quoted as saying he could cover the entire county for 10 > grand > or less in equipment and he already had the basic setup, he just had to > extend out further. But no, they threw tens of thousands of dollars to > someone outside of the area to do the same as this guy was doing. > > I think that's where most of my frustration comes from. I never had > dollar > signs in my eyes from this, only as maybe a means to achieve a few goals a > bit quicker. But no big deal. It's how it's tossed up and celebrated by > these big shot government types and turns out to be a bunch of hype that > is > a big waste of my time. Kinda like when your brother in law offers to > come > help work on your truck. Yeah, he comes over and yeah he'll be in the > garage. But how much quicker could you have got the job done without his > help??? ;) > > Most of us would do it quicker and cheaper and with better quality than > any > big company because we have to. > > I'm now sitting down and shutting up. :) > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Charles Wyble > Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 3:32 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] just attended broadband stimulus seminar and WOW..... > > What you all seem to have forgotten..... the big companies don't want > the stimulus money. It requires them to open themselves up to the SAME > level of INSANE TRANSPARENCY that any other grant applicant would have. > > They reject the money for the same exact reasons you all are. > > Therefore.... please .... sit down and shut up :) > > > Robert West wrote: >> AT&T was just an example. I'm sure someone will be purchased but if >> anything I see it as one company buying up and consolidating smaller >> companies to make one big network. But even with that, I still see the >> cellular companies trumping it all. They already have the basic >> infrastructure, the financing, the political muscle and even the >> frequencies. I'm not saying to jump ship, it's just good to keep an eye > out >> and play "what if" in order to survive. For me anyway. If they erode >> the >> market, we just have to come up with other products and more innovative >> things to offer that they can't. :) >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >> Behalf Of Tom DeReggi >> Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 3:10 PM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] just attended broadband stimulus seminar and >> WOW..... >> >> Who said the buyer had to be ATT? By the way, ATT bought Wayport, a wifi >> company. It didn;t make sense for ATT to upgrade infrastruvcture and take >> Wayport's market, when all they had to do is inject investment into the >> engine and share in the profits. Allthoguh Wayport was more of a LAN >> than > a >> >> WAN company, it does show private wireless companies can be attractive to >> RBOC. >> >> >> >> >> Tom DeReggi >> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc >> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Robert West" <[email protected]> >> To: "'WISPA General List'" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 1:07 PM >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] just attended broadband stimulus seminar and >> WOW..... >> >> >>> But I don't really envision AT&T coming to me and cashing me out. What >>> I >>> see is them upgrading their infrastructure and taking the market. They >>> already have presence in our areas with cellular. I don't see think >>> they >>> will care one bit about most of us small time operators. If we had a > much >>> bigger presence and were able to compete on the same national level that >>> they can, maybe. But as it is, we're just the small time pizza joint > down >>> the street that Pizza Hut opened across from offering items at half > price. >>> Well, until the small time joint closes. Then it's full price from then >>> on.............. >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >>> Behalf Of David E. Smith >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 12:23 PM >>> To: WISPA General List >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] just attended broadband stimulus seminar and > WOW..... >>> >>> Robert West wrote: >>>> Why should [big companies] invest >>>> their cash in building a market when we can do it for them and once >>>> it's >>>> about ripe, they can just walk in and pick it? We need to do what we > can >>> to >>>> protect our little piece of the pie somehow. >>> A small entrepreneur sees an opportunity, builds something that lots of >>> people want, makes some money from it, then a larger company buys it and >>> makes said entrepreneur filthy rich (or at least better-off than he >>> was). The customers win (they get the benefit of the new network >>> regardless of who built it), the guy that just cashed out wins, the >>> bigger company that buys the network wins (they presumably see profit >>> potential or else they wouldn't buy). I thought this sort of >>> sweat-equity-for-cash tradeoff was basically the American dream. >>> >>> I don't see this being a bad thing for anyone involved. >>> >>> David Smith >>> MVN.net >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> ---- >>> WISPA Wants You! 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