A 532 and a rb411 do not react the same to lightning.... You could have them 2 inches a part and the rb411 gets eth port whacked every time while the RB532 - and anything else in your inventory keeps on ticking. It is a board weakness even though I don't have the understanding of electronics you guys do. I can't fix em but I can tell you the difference after a bolt of lightning :) (no matter how its installed - grounded etc)
Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 -------- Original Message -------- > From: "Dennis Burgess" <dmburg...@linktechs.net> > Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 11:45 PM > To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Defective Microtik > > Same here, installation is key! We have 532s up for at least 4 years on > one tower. Its 300 foot from a AM 1000watt hotstick. > > -----Original Message----- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Eje Gustafsson > Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 10:31 PM > To: 'WISPA General List' > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Defective Microtik > > It's a alu shield on it solder it to the connector or strip of some of > the > plastic and put a nice clamp with a ground wire to electrical ground. On > one > tower install that is what we did used coax 400 size ground kits. > Shielded > connectors as well. Not lost a single Ethernet port there for hmmmm 5 > years. > Kansas is up there in statistics of lightning strikes each year but > nothing > like Florida. > > / Eje > > -----Original Message----- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Josh Luthman > Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 10:12 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Defective Microtik > > So the superior essex cabling with no drain wire is no good? > > On 8/3/09, Jayson Baker <jay...@spectrasurf.com> wrote: > > The shield does just that - shield, i.e. from interference. > > The drain wire does just that - drains errant static buildup, etc. > > > > On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 9:08 PM, Josh Luthman > > <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>wrote: > > > >> Mmm so the recommended cable for PTP600, the superior essex bbdge or > >> something, doesn't have this wire but is shielded. What's the > purpose > >> of the drain wire if the shielding and connectors are what's > >> grounding? > >> > >> On 8/3/09, Travis Johnson <t...@ida.net> wrote: > >> > Yes, but in most shielded cable we get, the drain wire is just a > bare, > >> > silver wire inside the cover like that one. > >> > > >> > If you aren't grounding that, you aren't really doing anything but > >> wasting > >> > money on cable... :( > >> > > >> > Travis > >> > > >> > > >> > Josh Luthman wrote: > >> >> > >> >> *Face plant* > >> >> > >> >> Never heard of those before... > >> >> > >> >> I'm assuming the black wire in this picture is the drain wire? It > >> doesn't > >> >> drain water, but is conductive - is this right? > >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:FTP_cable3.jpg > >> >> > >> >> Josh Luthman > >> >> Office: 937-552-2340 > >> >> Direct: 937-552-2343 > >> >> 1100 Wayne St > >> >> Suite 1337 > >> >> Troy, OH 45373 > >> >> > >> >> "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, > however > >> >> improbable, must be the truth." > >> >> --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 10:39 PM, Jayson Baker > >> >> <jay...@spectrasurf.com>wrote: > >> >> > >> >> > >> >>> > >> >>> Uhm, if you use shielded cable, you must use shielded connectors. > >> >>> Using unshielded connectors, with shielded cable, is like having > a > >> >>> 100' > >> >>> long > >> >>> lightning/static pickup cable that will drain right into your > board. > >> >>> > >> >>> Shielded connectors, shielded cable, drain wire soldered on, into > a > >> good > >> >>> grounded POE injector == no problems for many years > >> >>> > >> >>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 8:36 PM, Josh Luthman < > >> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > >> >>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> wrote: > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> You lost me - drain wire? Soldered onto a plastic rj45? > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Josh Luthman > >> >>>> Office: 937-552-2340 > >> >>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 > >> >>>> 1100 Wayne St > >> >>>> Suite 1337 > >> >>>> Troy, OH 45373 > >> >>>> > >> >>>> "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, > however > >> >>>> improbable, must be the truth." > >> >>>> --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 10:27 PM, Jayson Baker > <jay...@spectrasurf.com > >> >>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> wrote: > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> We also solder the drain wire from the cable onto the RJ45 > connector > >> >>>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> after > >> >>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> we crimp it on. > >> >>>>> Key is to ensure you have a good ground from A to Z. > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 8:26 PM, Josh Luthman < > >> >>>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > >> >>>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> wrote: > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> I am using shielded cable and Pac POEs andd lost all 3 APs > here a > >> few > >> >>>>>> weeks ago. > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> On 8/3/09, Jayson Baker <jay...@spectrasurf.com> wrote: > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> Try using shielded cable, and you won't have a problem. > >> >>>>>>> We're installed thousands in Colorado (second worst lightning > in > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>> > >> >>> the > >> >>> > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> country, next to Florida) and everytime we install without > >> >>>>>>> shielded > >> >>>>>>> cable-it's junk after a storm. We use shielded cable on ALL > >> >>>>>>> installs-customer installs as well. And the good grounded > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> PacWireless > >> >>>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> POE > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> injectors. With thousands in service, it's rare we get a > >> >>>>>>> lightning > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> related > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> service call. > >> >>>>>>> We justify the extra couple dollars in cable by saving the > cost > of > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> truck > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> rolls, replacement equipment, and unhappy customers. > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 6:10 PM, Josh Luthman > >> >>>>>>> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>wrote: > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> Every 133 I used had a problem. Be it software, hardware, > DOA, > >> >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> lightning, > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> whatever. Out of dozens out there none survived and were > >> >>>>>>>> > >> >>> > >> >>> replaced, > >> >>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> necessarily, by a newer board. > >> >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> Josh Luthman > >> >>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 > >> >>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 > >> >>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St > >> >>>>>>>> Suite 1337 > >> >>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 > >> >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which > remains, > >> >>>>>>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> however > >> >>>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> improbable, must be the truth." > >> >>>>>>>> --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle > >> >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Dennis Burgess < > >> >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> dmburg...@linktechs.net > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>> wrote: > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>> Nothing that I have seen. Sure they were not repackaged by > your > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> vendor? > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>> And/or like I suggested overclocked. > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >> >>>>>>>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto: > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> wireless-boun...@wispa.org > >> >>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> ] > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> On > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Forbes Mercy > >> >>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 6:53 PM > >> >>>>>>>>> To: WISPA General List > >> >>>>>>>>> Subject: [WISPA] Defective Microtik > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>> Is anybody having problems with R433AH's Microtik cards out > of > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>> > >> >>> the > >> >>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> box > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>> lately? We purchased four this year so far and one beeped > once > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> only > >> >>>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> on > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>> 18v not higher or loser voltages but it never beeped twice > or > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>> > >> >>> got > >> >>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> to > >> >>>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> an > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>> interface we could use. > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>> We just installed another one and it now is giving kernel > errors > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> and > >> >>>> > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>> unless authenticate all is on everyone loses registration > every > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> few > >> >>>> > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>> hours. We updated the firmware but with no positive > result. > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>> My costs for tower climbers and anger from the 150 > customers on > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> the > >> >>>> > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>> radio that went bad the day after we installed it is > getting > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> costly > >> >>>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> and > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>> wearing on my staff. We're going back right now to > reinstall > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>> > >> >>> the > >> >>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> old > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>> 133 board. Any others having these problems? > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>> Forbes Mercy > >> >>>>>>>>> President - Washington Broadband, Inc. > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> >>>> > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>> -------- > >> >>>>>>>>> WISPA Wants You! 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