No not really because the broadband router they would use only need 1 IP
then it runs dhcp server on the inside and your AP/hotspot controller cannot
see what is on the inside of the customers network you only see the on IP
and it's single MAC address. 

/ Eje

-----Original Message-----
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of richard sterne
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 2:33 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Apartment Buildings

Could you not set the CPE to DHCP and the IP pool to allow only 1 IP
address?

Richard

2009/8/21 Eje Gustafsson <e...@wisp-router.com>

> Not seen a single solution that can do that. That is the functionality of
> NAT to hide what is behind it. I take advantage of it all the time when
I'm
> staying in hotels. Use my own AP that allows my wifi enabled devices
access
> and connect to the hotels system and I'm paying a single fee for the hotel
> that charges for internet.
>
> Only way to "fight" it in a MTU type environment or even with residential
> is
> educate the users and strike some fear into them that if they run open APs
> they could get in trouble if the others that piggy back on it does illegal
> things such as copyrighted filesharing, illegal p0rn or simply are virus
> infected and they this way risk getting infected and have their own
> computers compromised and become BOT slaves.
>
> Plus also let them know that they are paying for specific service speeds
> and
> if they let others use it a lot for free then themselves no longer have
the
> speed for themselves and also possible point to the bit cap portion of the
> user agreement letting them know that their account could possibly be shut
> down prematurely because someone else is using up all their allow bit
> count.
>
>
> Some students will not care and there might be two apartment that even
> share
> the cost of the service and then you cannot do much about it besides maybe
> limit per connections etc to choke them out.
>
> What we do at one location (granted all pre-wired) is that the landlord is
> paying a small fee each month but then we provide free internet to the
> tenants just fast enough to work for a individual doing normal web
browsing
> but then we also provide upgrade service on a for pay basis. The people
> that
> pay tend to be greedy and want it all to themselves ;)
>
> /Eje
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
> Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 9:56 PM
> To: sc...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Apartment Buildings
>
> Mikrotik Hotspot does NOT have the capability of catching people behind
> NAT.
>
> Example:
>
> Joe buys a WRT54g.  WRT54g bridges to the paid wireless network.  Joe buys
> and account via laptop plugged into WRT54g.  Joe plus in an AP behind the
> router and broadcasts ESSID "Free Internet".  People mooch.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
> improbable, must be the truth."
> --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 10:51 PM, Scott Carullo
> <sc...@brevardwireless.com>wrote:
>
> > Mikrotik Hotspot between them and the internet....
> >
> > Scott Carullo
> > Brevard Wireless
> > 321-205-1100 x102
> >
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > > From: "Joe Laura" <joela...@superior1.com>
> > > Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 10:17 PM
> > > To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
> > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Apartment Buildings
> > >
> > > I had a nightmare trying to do apartment complexes. I thought I
touched
> > on a
> > > goldmine when all the signups started comming in. Then as tennants
> > started
> > > firing up their own A/P's others would connect to them and cancel
> > service.
> > > How are youll dealing with this? Joe Laura
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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