Wow what an amazing series of responses!  As frustrating and how ever much gray 
hair I achieved this weekend is now minimized by how much help I got on this 
issue, thank you so much, anytime I need validation as to why this is a great 
organization, this is the answer right here.
 
OK the quick and dirty: I now realize from your responses that maybe I can get 
away with three cards on one board but not splitting 120 customers, too much 
load to go with too much RF, too much power demand, in other words too many 
places to fail.  I'll pull off one sector XR2 and leave one SR2 and one XR2.  I 
hope I can put both in the same box without the RF issue if I separate them 
enough (those 10X10 boxes).  I'm waiting for the new AirMax line before I split 
out one more sector for this busy tower.

I've never heard of the export, especially the auto-export of the 
configuration. I want to get to know this because I can't think of the 
countless hours I've wasted this summer re-entering MAC/customer info as we've 
updated almost our entire network to XR2 chips this year.   I also upgraded 
nearly every tower to 18v POE's and am about to try a 12v to 18v boost for my 
solar site, it makes me a little worried about power demands but much like most 
of our industry I'll try it, test it, and hope it works.
 
As for the other suggestions I have tested for traffic, put in the typical 
firewalls for udp and esp floods, site checked for interference and made sure 
my antennas were properly spaced.  It worked great until I put in the XR2's on 
the same radios which is why I upgraded the board when the 133 couldn't keep 
up, I assumed the 433ah would, guess I was wrong.
 
Again I appreciate all the help you gave me, I needed this fresh persepective 
after a weekend of getting so frustrated I probably wouldn't have seen the most 
obvious thing.
 
Thanks,
Forbes Mercy
Washington Broadband, Inc.

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From: [email protected] on behalf of Dennis Burgess
Sent: Mon 8/24/2009 8:21 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Gettin sick of Microtik



Only way to go.  Not only does it decrease the load on each board, but it also 
prevents RF issues with high power radios in a single box.  All of our towers 
have individual 411Ahs on individual sectors with individual radio cards. 

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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of Steve Barnes
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 10:23 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Gettin sick of Microtik

2nd Idea.  What is the possibility if splitting the sectors out to individual 
RB411AH boards? Less of a single point of failure for the whole tower.

Steve Barnes
Manager
PCS-WIN<http://www.pcswin.com/>
RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service<http://www.rcwifi.com/>

Character cannot be developed in ease and quiet. Only through experience of 
trial and suffering can the soul be strengthened, vision cleared, ambition 
inspired, and success achieved.
- Helen Keller

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of Forbes Mercy
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 2:08 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Gettin sick of Microtik

I had a whole lot planned for this weekend, instead I spent 15 hours of it 
working on an AP that won't behave.  It's the third long fix period I've had to 
do for Microtik this weekend, while I do have 20 AP's and backhauls under that 
brand, none work easily, and the frustrations are plentiful.

SO Last week we upgraded a prizim chip to an XR2 on a three radio card 133c.  
We started to have problems with the new card randomly dropping then after 
disable/enable would come back up.  As the week went on it happened more 
frequently.  First solution, change out the new card, no difference.  The next 
was a new power supply.  Figured that was it since the 133 was running on a 
12v, we upgraded to an 18iv, no change.  So this weekend upgraded to a 433ah 
board and the three cards (2 XR2's and 1 SR1 as you know you can't put three 
XR2's in a 433 cause they made the slots too close together), no change, now 
the board wouldn't drop the connections it just increased latency dramatically 
after a few minutes, then resume low pings (average at this tower is 4ms) for 
about 50 cycles then get worse until about 4000 then time outs.

Today after manually entering the 120 people on the new board (four hours since 
you can't cut/paste to a Microtik) the ethernet port dropped.  I should point 
out I'm on my third trip up my steepest mountain where my jeep struggles to get 
up it.  Power cycle and it's up (yes I'm well aware of remote reboot systems 
but its never been a problem so it was low priority).  Tonight my after hours 
is slammed with "my Internet is so slow" calls from that tower and sure enough 
4000ms pings.  I've spent all weekend on it and I don't know what else to do, 
any ideas out there?  I know these radio's pretty well so I've tried the simple 
stuff (adjust power, change frequencies, blah blah)  HELP!

Not a pretty weekend,
Forbes
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