Mostly because many of my sites begin as a 433 on the tower with 2 radios and nothing on the ground. As the site grows, I move the routing functions to the ground into something with more power. Sometimes a PC based MT, other times a 433AH. I then will use 2 tunnels to separate the two radio cards at the top. It has just helped us grow sites easier. Eoip tunnels use very little processor. Others sites started with a 433AH on the bottom and had a switch for more ports. The tunnels allows me to easily separate customers on different APs or different Virtual APs, even when there is just one Ethernet cable running down the tower.
Bill Gaylord Scott Carullo wrote: > Why would you use eoip tunnels from the radio to the router when you are > plugging them into the 493 anyway? That seems to reverse what you are > trying to accomplish simplicity and performance wise... > > Scott Carullo > Brevard Wireless > 321-205-1100 x102 > > -------- Original Message -------- > >> From: "Bill Gaylord" <bi...@torchlake.com> >> Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 7:09 PM >> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Gettin sick of Microtik >> >> I do the exact same thing and it has been flawless. I use eoip tunnels >> from the wireless to the 493 to better separate radios. No perfomance >> issues at all. >> >> Bill Gaylord >> >> Robert West wrote: >> >>> Do you use a transparent bridge between them and the 493? At first I >>> > was > >>> thinking that was a lot for the 411 but if used as just a pass-through >>> > to > >>> the switch, that would be a brilliant thing indeed I think. Anyone see >>> > any > >>> drawbacks to that? That would certainly isolate all the RF from the >>> > other > >>> cards, I think. >>> >>> Bob- >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] >>> > On > >>> Behalf Of Dennis Burgess >>> Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 2:05 PM >>> To: WISPA General List >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Gettin sick of Microtik >>> >>> 493AH or switch, depending on how old it is. All the PoEs have to come >>> > back > >>> to a central point anyways. >>> >>> ----------------------------------------------------------- >>> Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer >>> WISPA Board Member - wispa.org >>> Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services >>> WISPA Vendor Member >>> Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net >>> LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training >>> The information transmitted (including attachments) is covered by the >>> Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. 2510-2521, is intended >>> > only > >>> for the person(s) or entity/entities to which >>> it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged >>> > material. Any > >>> review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of >>> > any > >>> action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other >>> > than > >>> the intended recipient(s) is prohibited, If you >>> received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the >>> > material > >>> from any computer. >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] >>> > On > >>> Behalf Of Robert West >>> Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 12:25 PM >>> To: 'WISPA General List' >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Gettin sick of Microtik >>> >>> Dennis, >>> >>> How are you putting those together into the backhaul? Are you plugging >>> > them > >>> into a switch? Sounds like the ideal way to go as far as isolating a >>> failure. You using Os level 4 per 411 I would suspect.....? >>> >>> Robert West >>> Just micro Digital Services inc. >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] >>> > On > >>> Behalf Of Dennis Burgess >>> Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 11:22 AM >>> To: WISPA General List >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Gettin sick of Microtik >>> >>> Only way to go. Not only does it decrease the load on each board, but >>> > it > >>> also prevents RF issues with high power radios in a single box. All of >>> > our > >>> towers have individual 411Ahs on individual sectors with individual >>> > radio > >>> cards. >>> >>> ----------------------------------------------------------- >>> Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer >>> WISPA Board Member - wispa.org >>> Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services >>> WISPA Vendor Member >>> Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net >>> LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training >>> The information transmitted (including attachments) is covered by the >>> Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. 2510-2521, is intended >>> > only > >>> for the person(s) or entity/entities to which >>> it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged >>> > material. Any > >>> review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of >>> > any > >>> action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other >>> > than > >>> the intended recipient(s) is prohibited, If you >>> received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the >>> > material > >>> from any computer. >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] >>> > On > >>> Behalf Of Steve Barnes >>> Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 10:23 AM >>> To: WISPA General List >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Gettin sick of Microtik >>> >>> 2nd Idea. What is the possibility if splitting the sectors out to >>> individual RB411AH boards? Less of a single point of failure for the >>> > whole > >>> tower. >>> >>> Steve Barnes >>> Manager >>> PCS-WIN<http://www.pcswin.com/> >>> RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service<http://www.rcwifi.com/> >>> >>> Character cannot be developed in ease and quiet. Only through >>> > experience of > >>> trial and suffering can the soul be strengthened, vision cleared, >>> > ambition > >>> inspired, and success achieved. >>> - Helen Keller >>> >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] >>> > On > >>> Behalf Of Forbes Mercy >>> Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 2:08 AM >>> To: WISPA General List >>> Subject: [WISPA] Gettin sick of Microtik >>> >>> I had a whole lot planned for this weekend, instead I spent 15 hours of >>> > it > >>> working on an AP that won't behave. It's the third long fix period >>> > I've had > >>> to do for Microtik this weekend, while I do have 20 AP's and backhauls >>> > under > >>> that brand, none work easily, and the frustrations are plentiful. >>> >>> SO Last week we upgraded a prizim chip to an XR2 on a three radio card >>> > 133c. > >>> We started to have problems with the new card randomly dropping then >>> > after > >>> disable/enable would come back up. As the week went on it happened >>> > more > >>> frequently. First solution, change out the new card, no difference. >>> > The > >>> next was a new power supply. Figured that was it since the 133 was >>> > running > >>> on a 12v, we upgraded to an 18iv, no change. So this weekend upgraded >>> > to a > >>> 433ah board and the three cards (2 XR2's and 1 SR1 as you know you >>> > can't put > >>> three XR2's in a 433 cause they made the slots too close together), no >>> change, now the board wouldn't drop the connections it just increased >>> latency dramatically after a few minutes, then resume low pings >>> > (average at > >>> this tower is 4ms) for about 50 cycles then get worse until about 4000 >>> > then > >>> time outs. >>> >>> Today after manually entering the 120 people on the new board (four >>> > hours > >>> since you can't cut/paste to a Microtik) the ethernet port dropped. I >>> should point out I'm on my third trip up my steepest mountain where my >>> > jeep > >>> struggles to get up it. Power cycle and it's up (yes I'm well aware >>> > of > >>> remote reboot systems but its never been a problem so it was low >>> > priority). > >>> Tonight my after hours is slammed with "my Internet is so slow" calls >>> > from > >>> that tower and sure enough 4000ms pings. I've spent all weekend on it >>> > and I > >>> don't know what else to do, any ideas out there? I know these radio's >>> pretty well so I've tried the simple stuff (adjust power, change >>> frequencies, blah blah) HELP! >>> >>> Not a pretty weekend, >>> Forbes >>> forbes.me...@wabroadband.com<mailto:forbes.me...@wabroadband.com> >>> >>> >>> >>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >>> ---- >>> WISPA Wants You! 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