Not to mention the old hardware has LITTLE memory and CPU horsepower. On 8/26/09, Michael Baird <m...@tc3net.com> wrote: > I don't have good info on that, other then I've been assured of a big > surprise on the QOS end for Voice. They offer 802.11e already on their > older gear, which for the most part works perfectly, but they say the > new gear will improve upon that. > > Regards > Michael Baird >> Does anyone know if the TDMA slicing is configurable? Like 50/50 up/down, >> >> or prioritized Voice/Video? >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <e...@wisp-router.com> >> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >> Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 2:37 PM >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] New UBNT M line, 802.11n without TDMA? >> >> >> >>> Except airMAX goes a step further by using some hardware function that is >>> >>> only available in the 11n chipsets. >>> The TDMA is a mix of software and hardware. >>> >>> /Eje >>> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> >>> >>> Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 12:33:59 >>> To: WISPA General List<wireless@wispa.org> >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] New UBNT M line, 802.11n without TDMA? >>> >>> >>> Airmax to Ubnt is Nstreme to Mikrotik from what I gather. To those who >>> know >>> Mikrotik that one sentence covers it all. >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however >>> improbable, must be the truth." >>> --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 12:30 PM, Michael Baird <m...@tc3net.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> When you enable airmax on the AP, only airmax capable stations will see >>>> it and can connect to it. >>>> Airmax capable clients will be able to connect to non-airmax enabled >>>> AP's, they recognize airmax/non-airmax alike. >>>> You can not mix and match, you can't run legacy gear to a Airmax enabled >>>> AP, won't work. >>>> Which isn't a good thing, but it's Ubiquities statement on the subject, >>>> they say their older hardware can't handle airmax/tdma. >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> Michael Baird >>>> >>>>> But you cannot mix and match.... correct? >>>>> ryan >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 9:25 AM, Michael Baird <m...@tc3net.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Airmax is enabled when a Ubiquity product is in AP mode, it's a tick >>>>>> box. Airmax capable clients will autodetect whether the AP is airmax >>>>>> enabled or not. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> Michael Baird >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Correct. >>>>>>> ryan >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 9:22 AM, Michael Baird <m...@tc3net.com> >>>>>>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ryan, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> That's not correct. Your second example will not accept a 802.11G/N >>>>>>>> client. When airmax is enabled, no normal 802.11 client will even >>>>>>>> see >>>>>>>> the AP. >>>>>>>> You must disable airmax on the AP in order to handle normal clients, >>>>>>>> >>>> you >>>> >>>>>>>> can't have some CPE's running in Airmax and some not running in >>>>>>>> >>>> Airmax. >>>> >>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>> Michael Baird >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Be aware though, you cannot mix and match at the same time.For >>>>>>>>> >>>> example: >>>> >>>>>>>>> 1 Airmax AP and 10 Airmax enabled CPE = Airmax network. >>>>>>>>> 1 Airmax AP, 9 Airmax enabled CPE and 1 802.11G/N = 802.11G/N >>>>>>>>> >>>> network. >>>> >>>>>>>>> ryan >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 6:26 AM, Michael Baird <m...@tc3net.com> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Not sure if this is clear, but with airmax enabled Ubiquity is >>>>>>>>>> proprietary, if you disable airmax it will work with other n/g >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> clients, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I don't think b is supported at this time. The firmware is rather >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> young >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> at this time as well, I'd wait a few releases before using these >>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>> production. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>> Michael Baird >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Yes by default it act as a regular 11n unit to get TDMA function >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> you >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> would enable airMAX function on the units. Kind of like with >>>>>>>>>> >>>> MikroTik >>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> would enable Nstrem to get that functionality. As far as I know >>>>>>>>>> >>>> these >>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> two >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> systems are not compatible. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 11n is backwards compatible with a/b/g >>>>>>>>>>> So yes your scenario about upgrade path works just fine. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> /Eje >>>>>>>>>>> ------Original Message------ >>>>>>>>>>> From: os10ru...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>> Sender: wireless-boun...@wispa.org >>>>>>>>>>> To: WISPA General List >>>>>>>>>>> ReplyTo: WISPA General List >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [WISPA] New UBNT M line, 802.11n without TDMA? >>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Aug 26, 2009 06:40 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Can the new UBNT M line gear be used as an 802.11n access point >>>>>>>>>>> without the TDMA? I'm assuming the TDMA protocol is proprietary >>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>> that when using the TDMA protocol normal 802.11a/b/g gear doesn't >>>>>>>>>>> work. I'm also assuming the TDMA can be turned off which I >>>>>>>>>>> realize >>>>>>>>>>> might not be the case. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> For example, could someone who's currently running an 802.11g AP >>>>>>>>>>> replace the AP with the new M gear but with the TDMA turned off >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> (for >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> now), at their leisure change out 802.11g CPEs replacing them >>>>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>>>> the M enabled ones (also with the TDMA turned off for now), and >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> when >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> all the CPEs have been upgraded and are M compliant throw the >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> switch >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> and go TDMA in a smooth transition? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>>>>>>> Greg >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> WISPA Wants You! 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