The way I understood it was if out of 799.2 hour span (33.3 days * 24
hours/day) there was 24 hours of sunlight.

Meaning for every ~800 hours at least 24 of them the sun was in the air
hitting the solar panel.  The other 776 was darkness.

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On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 1:57 AM, Christopher Erickson <
christopher.k.erick...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Could be but that isn't right either.
>
> 24 hours of daylight is not the same as 24 hours of full current charging.
>
> The Sun rises and the Sun sets.
>
> Latitude and seasons aside, an 80 watt panel is only going to give about
> 450 watt-hours a day at absolute best.
>
> -Christopher Erickson
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]on
> > Behalf Of os10ru...@gmail.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 10:43 PM
> > To: WISPA General List
> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] solar site
> >
> >
> > I don't think his 24 hours of sun number meant in one 24 hour period.
> > I think he meant 24 hours of sun cumulative over 33 days. No?
> >
> > Greg
> >
> > On Aug 27, 2009, at 12:01 AM, Christopher Erickson wrote:
> >
> > > First, the Sun never shines 24 hours in a day unless you are above
> > > the Arctic circle.  And even then, that only happens for a few days
> > > of the year.
> > >
> > > Second, there isn't much charging going on when the Sun is near the
> > > horizon, which is most of the time when in Northern latitudes.
> > >
> > > For example, an 80 watt panel will NEVER output 80 watts in Anchorage,
> > > Alaska because even at solar noon in the summer, the Sun is only
> > > around 60 degrees up in the sky.  And below about 25 degrees, there
> > > isn't any charging going on at all.
> > >
> > > So anyway think of an amperage sine wave that builds up in the
> > > morning,
> > > peaks at solar noon and then diminishes in the afternoon.
> > >
> > > The math is more complicated than it first appears.
> > >
> > > "My advice is always free and worth every penny!"
> > >
> > > -Christopher Erickson
> > > Network Design Engineer
> > > 5432 E. Northern Lights Blvd., Suite 529
> > > Anchorage, AK 99508
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-
> > >> boun...@wispa.org]on
> > >> Behalf Of Mike
> > >> Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 9:06 PM
> > >> To: WISPA General List
> > >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] solar site
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> I'm not sure I buy into your math.  If I have a repeater site that is
> > >> pulling 1A @ 12V, then it is consuming something like 12W, right?  If
> > >> I have 60W of solar panel (2 toys) then when conditions are optimal,
> > >> I have 48W left over to charge the battery.
> > >>
> > >> Lets say I am REALLY north, and the panels are only producing 45W.  I
> > >> still am consuming 12W with the radios, and have 33W left over to
> > >> charge the battery.  If I have an 800AH battery 24 Hours of sun will
> > >> run the radios AND fully charge the battery.  If the sun shines 24
> > >> hours out of 33.3 days, I will stay ahead of the curve and the
> > >> battery will stay charged.
> > >>
> > >> No sun for 33.3 days and my 800AH battery will finally die.  I NEVER
> > >> see those conditions here in the midwest.  I'll still maintain you
> > >> can do a repeater site for $500 in solar power costs and if you
> > >> monitor battery condition it will work just fine.
> > >>
> > >> At 09:54 PM 8/26/2009, you wrote:
> > >>> Here in the north, I wouldn't bother with anything less than 100w of
> > >>> panel.
> > >>
> > >>
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