I've heard the same thing over in the Mikrotik forums. The solution they had is the same as Josh here says. It tends to fall on its face at times although I never tried it for myself.
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 10:26 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices I am suggesting don't use dual nstreme as it causes lock ups. Use OSPF to create a pseudo FDX bridge between two links. Personally done with 1 RB and 2 radios on each side, but could work with 1 RB and four bullets/comparable (just need to make sure they're true bridges). Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth." --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 10:13 AM, Dennis Burgess <[email protected]>wrote: > Don't know what that means? I am assuming that you had some lockups > while using dual nstream. Don't think that was part of the > conversation. I was just saying that doing a Full Duplex OSPF or > Static-Routed link is well documented. > > ----------------------------------------------------------- > Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer > WISPA Board Member - wispa.org > Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services > WISPA Vendor Member > Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net > LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training > Author of "Learn RouterOS" > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Josh Luthman > Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 5:12 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices > > So the three lock ups on my links while using dual nstreme were just a > coincidentally solved by changing the config..? > > On 9/17/09, Dennis Burgess <[email protected]> wrote: > > OSPF Full duplex is no biggy, anyone can do it and is well documented, > > but I don't think he needs that. I would just put up a link and be > > happy! Keep in mind, installation is key to a quality and reliable > > link! > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On > > Behalf Of Josh Luthman > > Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 6:39 PM > > To: [email protected]; WISPA General List > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices > > > > Assuming you can get 40mhz of 5ghz spectrum and not need it anymore, > > MT is great and it's cheap. Finding that 40mhz is your major concern. > > > > I am running two backhauls, each with two pairs of radios (that's > > 40mhz of spectrum) and they're 99% awesome. Don't use the 532/333 > > (433ah IMO) or dual nstreme (use Butch's pseudo fdx OSPF) and you'll > > get that .999%. > > > > On 9/16/09, Scott Carullo <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> Marlon, > >> > >> I haven't seen every post on this thread but have been keeping eye on > > it at > >> a distance... > >> > >> Why would you not want to use a MT solution for about $500 for the > > link > >> with the ability to easily go 30/60MB depending on 20/40Mhz channel. > > I'd > >> say its proven there are a multitude of people that use the gear for > >> backhaul on this list and any of them will tell you its a solid > > performer. > >> Is it the absolute most reliable rock solid gear available? Depends > > who > >> you ask. I've had MT gear running I've forgotten about for many > years > >> without a hickup. Also had some that has to be replaced a bit more > > than > >> other solutions might need to be due to ethernet sensitiity - depends > > on > >> how & where its installed. > >> > >> But, considering the alternative prices you could get an awful lot > > more for > >> your money with this solution. You could even put in two radios on > > each > >> side and link them together using on of many different ways for > > redundancy > >> - still at a fraction of the cost of other solutions. > >> > >> The positive side is your price range is very realistic for that > > throughput > >> - you have many good solid choices you won't go wrong with most of > > which > >> has been discussed on this list already. I'll give you one more... > I > > have > >> an external trango Atlas link coming down in about a week I can part > > with > >> ;) > >> > >> Scott Carullo > >> Brevard Wireless > >> 321-205-1100 x102 > >> > >> -------- Original Message -------- > >>> From: "Marlon K. Schafer" <[email protected]> > >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 6:57 PM > >>> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> > >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices > >>> > >>> Uh, guys, this is interesting. But it doesn't answer the original > >> question! > >>> > >>> I don't have a need for a 100meg full duplex backhaul solution. 20 > > megs > >> > >>> both ways will do just fine for now. > >>> > >>> What ideas do y'all have for a 20+ meg backhaul solution. Something > > less > >> > >>> than $3000 if it's at all possible. > >>> > >>> I know about the MT gear. I''ve already used one. And I REALLY > like > > the > >> > >>> Airaya gear it'll replace. I'm just wondering what people are using > > and > >> > >>> liking. I don't want any unproven brand new gear. 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