no it's not. but a subpoena means drop everything and do it now. I'd rather be prepared to comply
Sent from my iPhone On Nov 10, 2009, at 12:01 PM, "Adam Goodman" <a...@wispring.com> wrote: > Sounds like a lot of work. I think the question should be - Is it > really your (our) job to protect those crappies revenue stream? > > > On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 12:28 PM, Jerry Richardson > <jrichard...@aircloud.com> wrote: >> So if you are running a NAT/DHCP network, how would you find the >> offending customer? We are running static/public so we don't run >> into this. >> >> I think the simplest way is to require the studio to provide the IP >> for the server delivering copyrighted information. >> >> The ISP has to be tracking CPE MACs. >> >> Use MT's torch or Wireshark to look at connections across the >> network to find the BT server IP. Match the connection to the MAC >> and there you go. >> >> Maybe there is an easier way. >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- >> boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Nick Olsen >> Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 8:11 AM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] DMCA - copyright infringement >> >> Really to cover yourself you would need to know what customer it >> came from, >> When NAT'ing that's hard to do. So yeah, I would agree you the ISP >> could >> become the sole person responsible for that unless you can point >> fingers at >> a customer. >> >> Nick Olsen >> Brevard Wireless >> (321) 205-1100 x106 >> >> >> ---------------------------------------- >> >> From: "os10ru...@gmail.com" <os10ru...@gmail.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 11:03 AM >> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] DMCA - copyright infringement >> >> What are you guys doing who have some/all of your network nat'ed? >> Seems >> like then more of the burden might fall on you. >> >> GReg >> >> On Nov 10, 2009, at 11:20 AM, Adam Goodman wrote: >> >>> To me the question is how much work should I invest in order to >>> protect "their" copyright interest. It makes sense to me that since >>> they have no way of knowing the identity of the customer and all >>> they >>> really have is an ip address. That the ISP would have to connect the >>> copyright owner to the customer. Billing them for the research work >>> sounds like good idea to me. That way I am not preventing them from >>> contacting the perpetrating party, and I also get paid for my time. >>> >>> -Adam >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 9:24 AM, Robert West <robert.w...@just-micro.com >>> > >> wrote: >>>> I agree. I'm not the sheriff, I'm just the messenger boy. I >>>> pass it >> along >>>> and forget it. Not my job. >>>> >>>> Bob- >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- >>>> boun...@wispa.org] On >>>> Behalf Of Chuck Hogg >>>> Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 12:41 PM >>>> To: WISPA General List >>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] DMCA - copyright infringement >>>> >>>> Notify customer, give a warning, make not on account, disregard >>>> studio >>>> letter. Wait for subpoena before giving the studios any >>>> information. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Chuck Hogg >>>> Shelby Broadband >>>> 502-722-9292 >>>> ch...@shelbybb.com >>>> http://www.shelbybb.com >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- >>>> boun...@wispa.org] On >>>> Behalf Of Adam Goodman >>>> Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 12:12 PM >>>> To: WISPA General List >>>> Subject: [WISPA] DMCA - copyright infringement >>>> >>>> We have received an email from our provider with a complaint from >>>> "Twentieth Century FOX Film Corporation" about a download movie >>>> from >>>> BitTorrent. >>>> >>>> They demand we notify the customer and make sure the customer is >>>> aware >>>> of our AUP. Has anyone received a notice like this and how did you >>>> handle the case. 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