That was my next question :) On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 12:48 PM, Jerry Richardson <[email protected] > wrote:
> DSL is much different than Ethernet. Higher peak to peak voltage, only > needs one pair, will run with dialtone, tolerates splices, etc. Phone lines > are typically daisy chained from jack to jack - even if it's 6-pair. The > pairs are pulled out depending on which line you want to tap. > > Ethernet is much more fragile. Sometimes you can get away with 1 splice on > Ethernet, other times you can't. Depends on the devices. > > If all of the lines are home run to a cabinet, then you can grab 2 of the > pairs. Since the runs are usually 100' or less you can likely get 100Mbps. > Otherwise 10Mbps will be much more forgiving. > > But really, do you want a bunch of non-standard installs out there that you > have to explain to a new guy every time he finds one? > > Jerry > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Mike > Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 3:58 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cat3 instead of Cat5 > > Think about it. How many DSL connections have you encountered that > had a long run of satin phone cord from a block to the DSL modem? I > used to have a DSL connection running on some of the UGLIEST station > cable you can imagine; Scotch locks, stubs, all of it. Yeah it will > work. Is it a good idea? > > Mike > > At 11:58 PM 11/17/2009, you wrote: > >Phone line is twisted pair and normally 2 pair. Transmit and receive. > Can > >easily do 100mbps. You could even get it to do gigabit with not much > >effort. No PoE though, no pair for that. HOWEVER, the problems come from > >the nasty connections everyone including the phone company has made. Most > >phone line isn't "clean" like a network cable you would run. Who knows > >where the hell the splices and rodent chewed ends are at and if they stick > >with a common wiring scheme throughout the structure. If it was the best > >option, you could at least test and give up quickly if it fell on its > face. > > > >There used to be some home networking nics that used the phone lines in > the > >home and you could also use the phones with the things connected. That > was > >in the late 1990's, early 2000. Some Gateway desktops came with them. I > >never saw them used though. > > > >Bob- > > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > >Behalf Of RickG > >Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 12:02 AM > >To: WISPA General List > >Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cat3 instead of Cat5 > > > >That would be great! But, I cant find anything on the net except > references > >to the standard being 10Mbps: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category_3_cable > >Any examples? > > > >On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 9:38 PM, Kevin Neal <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > With the right equipment I've heard of gigabit over rusted old > barbwire! > > > > > > -Kevin > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 7:32 PM, RickG <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > 100Mbps on cat 3? Really? > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 4:12 PM, Forbes Mercy > > > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > > >> We currently run a Cat5 into the wall then put a jack into the > house. > > > >> My question is since you can get 100MB through a Cat3 which is the > same > > > >> as a phone line why can't we run the connection into their phone > line? > > > >> Most of our customers have cell phone only and their internal wiring > is > > > >> virtually unused. > > > >> > > > >> Thanks, > > > >> Forbes > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >---- > > > >> WISPA Wants You! 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