There's the confusion. 2 "standards". One with 4 pair and one with 2 pair. Gotta love standards.
-----Original Message----- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 9:33 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cat3 instead of Cat5 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gigabit_Ethernet#1000BASE-T ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -------------------------------------------------- From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 8:00 AM To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cat3 instead of Cat5 > Don't think so, pretty confident gigabit is 2 pair still. Could be > wrong... > > On 11/18/09, Mike Hammett <wispawirel...@ics-il.net> wrote: >> I believe 100 megs requires 2 pair and Gig requires all 4 pair in >> addition >> to certain quality measures. >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> http://www.ics-il.com >> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "Robert West" <robert.w...@just-micro.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 11:58 PM >> To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org> >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cat3 instead of Cat5 >> >>> Phone line is twisted pair and normally 2 pair. Transmit and receive. >>> Can >>> easily do 100mbps. You could even get it to do gigabit with not much >>> effort. No PoE though, no pair for that. HOWEVER, the problems come >>> from >>> the nasty connections everyone including the phone company has made. >>> Most >>> phone line isn't "clean" like a network cable you would run. Who knows >>> where the hell the splices and rodent chewed ends are at and if they >>> stick >>> with a common wiring scheme throughout the structure. If it was the >>> best >>> option, you could at least test and give up quickly if it fell on its >>> face. >>> >>> There used to be some home networking nics that used the phone lines in >>> the >>> home and you could also use the phones with the things connected. That >>> was >>> in the late 1990's, early 2000. Some Gateway desktops came with them. >>> I >>> never saw them used though. >>> >>> Bob- >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >>> Behalf Of RickG >>> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 12:02 AM >>> To: WISPA General List >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cat3 instead of Cat5 >>> >>> That would be great! But, I cant find anything on the net except >>> references >>> to the standard being 10Mbps: >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category_3_cable >>> Any examples? >>> >>> On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 9:38 PM, Kevin Neal <ke...@safelink.net> wrote: >>> >>>> With the right equipment I've heard of gigabit over rusted old >>>> barbwire! >>>> >>>> -Kevin >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 7:32 PM, RickG <rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> > 100Mbps on cat 3? Really? >>>> > >>>> > On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 4:12 PM, Forbes Mercy >>>> > <forbes.me...@wabroadband.com>wrote: >>>> > >>>> >> We currently run a Cat5 into the wall then put a jack into the >>>> >> house. >>>> >> My question is since you can get 100MB through a Cat3 which is the >>>> >> same >>>> >> as a phone line why can't we run the connection into their phone >>>> >> line? >>>> >> Most of our customers have cell phone only and their internal wiring >>>> >> is >>>> >> virtually unused. >>>> >> >>>> >> Thanks, >>>> >> Forbes >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> ---- >>>> >> WISPA Wants You! 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