If you want some real enemies, just take down their internet access for a day or so :) Even better, I used to be a GM at a cable company. Try having an outage during prime time - they'll hunt you down with pitchforks & sling blades! -RickG
On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 10:04 PM, Robert West <robert.w...@just-micro.com>wrote: > I tried facebook, gave it up. Too much social in those social networking > sites. I decided to join up with InYourFacebook.com instead, the new > Anti-Social networking site. I signed up, found a few of my old enemies, > added them to my list and after only a couple of weeks I now have over 15 > new enemies! Go look around, register and click to become my enemy! I > look > forward to seeing you there and being your enemy! > > Not a real site, but I wish it was.............. > > Bob- > > > -----Original Message----- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Mike > Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 6:51 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Multiple Radio cards in an enclosure > > OK, so I am a long time computer/radio geek, but have never done facebook. > > I created a facebook. Is that the proper term? Then, all hell broke > lose!!! Holy moly I have more friends than I thought I had. Stuff > started popping up, it told me Eudora is bad and it can't import my > address book, and an old friend who must be a facebook stalker > INSTANTLY added me as her friend. > > Holy crap, what have I done? > > Mike, add me, I can't seem to find you. Besides, you'll want to see > the pic of the woman who added me as her friend. :-) > Mike Gilchrist. I want to see those pics. > > OK, maybe this will be fun BESIDES a tremendous waste of time. > > hahahahah Mike > > > At 01:03 PM 12/2/2009, you wrote: > >I put them up on my FaceBook. They say you can share your albums with > >people not on FaceBook, but in the testing I did... apparently it just > >takes them to a signup page first. They're there if you're on FaceBook. > > > >If you're looking for me, I'm not sure how many Mike Hammetts there are, > but > >I'm sure there's only 1 WISPA and only 1 Mike Hammett in WISPA, so search > >for WISPA. > > > > > >----- > >Mike Hammett > >Intelligent Computing Solutions > >http://www.ics-il.com > > > > > > > >-------------------------------------------------- > >From: "Mike" <m...@aweiowa.com> > >Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 11:22 AM > >To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> > >Subject: Re: [WISPA] Multiple Radio cards in an enclosure > > > > > I am very new to MT, but have been using some and learning. I'll > > > have to see what the 411 is. I have 433s, a 450 and one of the 100s, > > > but no 411s. > > > > > > What is self adhesive plastic? Do you mean that foam double sided > > > tape? Does it hold in the cold? > > > > > > I may have to rethink what I thought I knew. I have always put > > > radios in the same band in separate boxes. It sure would cut down on > > > the number of cat5 cables I have to have running up the tower. > > > > > > I'm still trying to visualize your routerboards mounted perpendicular > > > to the enclosure back wall. Please elaborate. > > > > > > OK, so if I want a good nema box to try some of this, where should I > look? > > > > > > Mike > > > > > > At 10:33 AM 12/2/2009, you wrote: > > >>I have a somewhat large NEMA box (1'x2.5'x3') with 4x RB411AHs with an > XR5 > > >>in each. At the bottom of the tower, I have a box with an RB493 and > all > > >>the > > >>PoE business. > > >> > > >>Each RB411 is mounted with self adhesive plastic to some sheet metal. > > >> > > >>I don't have any experience with self-interference inside an enclosure, > > >>but > > >>I bought some sheet metal and cut\bent it into L shapes, securing the > base > > >>to the enclosure with the RouterBoards perpendicular to the enclosure's > > >>back > > >>wall. I did that just to be safe. Pigtails run from the cards to the > > >>bottom of the enclosure. No RouterBoard or radio can line of sight see > > >>another. > > >> > > >>Previously in this same enclosure I had a PC motherboard with an RB14 > > >>(modified by MT to support higher power cards) with 4x SR5s on it. I > > >>didn't > > >>have any apparent RF problems then, but I switched to this other method > > >>because I had a phantom lockup problem... every 30 - 45 days it would > > >>lock > > >>up and I couldn't determine the source. > > >> > > >>The 411 isn't the card, but the computer you're plugging the cards > into. > > >>When I did this, the XR5s were the best quality cards available. This > > >>exact > > >>setup has been in place since this summer and I haven't had any > problems > > >>yet. The previous system was in place ever since the SR5 came out. > > >> > > >> > > >>----- > > >>Mike Hammett > > >>Intelligent Computing Solutions > > >>http://www.ics-il.com > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>-------------------------------------------------- > > >>From: "Mike" <m...@aweiowa.com> > > >>Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 10:13 AM > > >>To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> > > >>Subject: [WISPA] Multiple Radio cards in an enclosure > > >> > > >> > Since I am probably one of the veterans called out yesterday for my > > >> > messaging etiquette, I am changing the subject. > > >> > > > >> > I am interested in the multiple radios in an enclosure idea. I do > > >> > have a couple with 5.8 and 2.4 gear in the same box, but have been > > >> > afraid to put cards in the same band in the same case. > > >> > > > >> > The foil spacer you put between cards Bob, do you then ground it to > > >> > create a sort of Faraday shield? I know the XRx cards do a good job > > >> > of shielding if you attach the pigtail. > > >> > > > >> > How about the receive sensitivity on the 411 cards? Has that been > an > > >> > issue? I think the XR cards have better specs. Wouldn't having > > >> > multiple 411 cards in the same box possibly have desense issues too? > > >> > > > >> > Mike > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > At 09:41 AM 12/2/2009, you wrote: > > >> >>Forgot to add, if you're concerned with any RF collisions inside the > > >> >>box, > > >> >>the other thing I talked about earlier, having just 3 411 cards in > > >> >>their > > >> >>own > > >> >>box at the sector then running Cat5 to transparent bridge the 411's > to > > >> >>a > > >> >>central RouterOS device would take any of that issue totally away. > > >> >>That's > > >> >>one that I'm doing just to do it, basically. Was an idea from > someone > > >> >>a > > >> >>couple of months ago. (I actually listen to you guys) Had a 600a > > >> >>doing > > >> >>nothing and some 411 cards "so why not play?" was my thinking. > > >> >> > > >> >>Bob- > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >>-----Original Message----- > > >> >>From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org > ] > On > > >> >>Behalf Of Mike > > >> >>Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 9:48 AM > > >> >>To: WISPA General List > > >> >>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sectors > > >> >> > > >> >>Have you had any issues with putting 3 radio cards in the same > > >> >>spectrum in the same box? I've thought about that but wondered if > > >> >>there would be desense issues where one transmitting desensitizes > > >> >>another one listening. > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >>At 08:38 AM 12/2/2009, you wrote: > > >> >> >Yep, looks like you're hitting the wall. We aren't lucky enough > to > > >> >> >push > > >> >> >3 > > >> >> >meg here, the most is usually 1 so again, all depends on your > > >> >> >customer > > >> >>base. > > >> >> > > > >> >> >I'd say if you already have 35 on that one AP, just splitting it > into > > >> >> >2 > > >> >> >180 > > >> >> >degree sectors will just cost you cash as soon as you gain a few > more > > >> >> >customers. You already have 35 pulling it down, sounds like if > you > > >> >> >just > > >> >> >do > > >> >> >2 180's, if split evenly (and it never will be) that would put you > to > > >> >> >where > > >> >> >you probably want to be for smooth delivery but not much room for > > >> >> >more > > >> >> >growth. I'd go with 3 120's and a 433AH with 3 cards on it, one > per > > >> >>sector. > > >> >> >I have a few like that and it works fine for what I do but again, > I > > >> >> >only > > >> >> >dole out 1mb per sub typically. I've also been upgrading some of > my > > >> >> >remote > > >> >> >AP's to one 433AH with only one radio installed and an Omni. The > > >> >> >anticipated upgrade path is to just add a sector or 2 and radio > card > > >> >> >as > > >> >> >needed to the point where I have 3 sectors. Keeping the Omni of > > >> >> >course > > >> >> >until the third sector is needed. That's something someone > already > > >> >> >suggested doing and I like the economics of it. > > >> >> > > > >> >> >Bob- > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> >-----Original Message----- > > >> >> >From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org > [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] > > >> >> >On > > >> >> >Behalf Of Jason Hensley > > >> >> >Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 9:26 AM > > >> >> >To: 'WISPA General List' > > >> >> >Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sectors > > >> >> > > > >> >> >Max 3meg - b only mode on this particular AP. Most are still able > to > > >> >> >get > > >> >> >that, but we're seeing a decline on how many can pull 3meg. At > peak > > >> >> >times, > > >> >> >we've seen it to where users aren't able to get much over 1meg, > but > > >> >> >that's > > >> >> >not happening very often right now. > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> >-----Original Message----- > > >> >> >From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org > [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] > > >> >> >On > > >> >> >Behalf Of Robert West > > >> >> >Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 8:23 AM > > >> >> >To: 'WISPA General List' > > >> >> >Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sectors > > >> >> > > > >> >> >Yeah, how much bandwidth are you passing to those 35 customers, > > >> >> >Jason? > > >> >>Just > > >> >> >curious. > > >> >> > > > >> >> >Bob- > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> >-----Original Message----- > > >> >> >From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org > [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] > > >> >> >On > > >> >> >Behalf Of os10ru...@gmail.com > > >> >> >Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 9:10 AM > > >> >> >To: WISPA General List > > >> >> >Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sectors > > >> >> > > > >> >> >Do you think you're hitting the limit of 802.11b/g or is it the > lack > > >> >> >of > > >> >> >horsepower on the AP's CPU? > > >> >> > > > >> >> >Greg > > >> >> >On Dec 2, 2009, at 8:33 AM, Jason Hensley wrote: > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > On this same subject, would it be better to put up 3 individual > > >> >> > > AP's, > > >> >> > > or > > >> >> > > would something like the Deliberant Quad work well if the issue > is > > >> >> > > AP > > >> >> > > overload. I have an AP that has 35 subscribers right now. > We've > > >> >> > > seen a > > >> >> > > performance drop on it and are considering sectoring. > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > Any thoughts on a dual (or quad) radio on a single board vs > > >> >> > > multiple > > >> >> >boards > > >> >> > > with single radios? > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > -----Original Message----- > > >> >> > > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org > > >> >> > > [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] > > >> >> > > On > > >> >> > > Behalf Of Rick Harnish > > >> >> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 6:28 AM > > >> >> > > To: 'WISPA General List' > > >> >> > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sectors > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > Mark, > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > If I remember right, you are in Missouri. I was looking for > the > > >> >>strength > > >> >> >of > > >> >> > > your omni. We have had good success with 9 db omni's in the > > >> >> > > Indiana > > >> >> > > farmland. When we need to sectorize but the market capacity is > > >> >> > > not > > >> >> > > that > > >> >> > > high, we often go to (2) 180 Superpass 9 db sectors. We have > had > > >> >> > > good > > >> >> >luck > > >> >> > > with them over the years. They improve our signal to existing > > >> >> > > clients > > >> >>and > > >> >> > > enable affordable expansion in rural areas. If the market will > > >> >> > > justify > > >> >>3 > > >> >> > > sectors, I would go that way though. > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > Many of our Wireless POPs are pico-cells and we try to limit > our > > >> >>salesmen > > >> >> >to > > >> >> > > a 6 mile diameter around the tower. Although, we can often go > > >> >> > > farther, > > >> >>we > > >> >> > > try to stay inside these guidelines when possible. To achieve a > > >> >> > > high > > >> >> >density > > >> >> > > of broadcast stations, many locations are needed. Luckily, we > are > > >> >> > > well > > >> >> > > established in our area and have most of these sites already in > > >> >>operation. > > >> >> > > Your mileage may vary given your topology and broadcast site > > >> >> > > density. > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > Rick Harnish > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > >> -----Original Message----- > > >> >> > >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org > > >> >> > >> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] > > >> >> > >> On > > >> >> > >> Behalf Of Mark McElvy > > >> >> > >> Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 10:51 PM > > >> >> > >> To: WISPA General List > > >> >> > >> Subject: [WISPA] Sectors > > >> >> > >> > > >> >> > >> I am running 2.4 HPOL It has taken about 1.5 yrs to grow this > AP > > >> >> > >> to > > >> >> > >> 32 > > >> >> > >> subs. > > >> >> > >> > > >> >> > >> -----Original Message----- > > >> >> > >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org > > >> >> > >> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] > > >> >> > >> On > > >> >> > >> Behalf Of 3-dB Networks > > >> >> > >> Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 9:37 PM > > >> >> > >> To: 'WISPA General List' > > >> >> > >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sectors > > >> >> > >> > > >> >> > >> What frequency band and polarization? > > >> >> > >> > > >> >> > >> I would also strongly consider your reasoning for moving from > the > > >> >> > >> Omni > > >> >> > >> to > > >> >> > >> the sectors. If it is because your AP is overloaded so you > need > > >> >> > >> to > > >> >> > >> offload > > >> >> > >> some, 3 AP's might be attractive for future proofing sakes. > > >> >> > >> > > >> >> > >> Daniel White > > >> >> > >> 3-dB Networks > > >> >> > >> http://www.3dbnetworks.com > > >> >> > >> > > >> >> > >> > > >> >> > >> -----Original Message----- > > >> >> > >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org > > >> >> > >> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] > > >> >> > >> On > > >> >> > >> Behalf Of Mark McElvy > > >> >> > >> Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 8:29 PM > > >> >> > >> To: WISPA General List > > >> >> > >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sectors > > >> >> > >> > > >> >> > >> 9db > > >> >> > >> > > >> >> > >> -----Original Message----- > > >> >> > >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org > > >> >> > >> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] > > >> >> > >> On > > >> >> > >> Behalf Of Rick Harnish > > >> >> > >> Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 7:42 PM > > >> >> > >> To: 'WISPA General List' > > >> >> > >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sectors > > >> >> > >> > > >> >> > >> What size omni are you using? > > >> >> > >> > > >> >> > >>> -----Original Message----- > > >> >> > >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org > > >> >> > >>> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] > > >> >> > >> On > > >> >> > >>> Behalf Of Josh Luthman > > >> >> > >>> Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 7:59 PM > > >> >> > >>> To: WISPA General List > > >> >> > >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sectors > > >> >> > >>> > > >> >> > >>> That is the general suggestion - two 120s. That one guy that > > >> >> > >>> does > > >> >> > >>> antenna design said so :) > > >> >> > >>> > > >> >> > >>> You will get some less coverage then three 120s but at the > cost > > >> >> > >>> of > > >> >> > >> the > > >> >> > >>> extra radio/antenna it isn't cost efficient. > > >> >> > >>> > > >> >> > >>> On 12/1/09, Mark McElvy <mmce...@accubak.com> wrote: > > >> >> > >>>> I need to sector a tower that currently is an omni. I don't > > >> >> > >>>> really > > >> >> > >>> want > > >> >> > >>>> to go to 3x 120's but find it hard to find 180's and have > heard > > >> >> > >> they > > >> >> > >>>> don't tend to work great. I have also heard 2x 120's will > work, > > >> >> > >>>> any > > >> >> > >>>> comments? > > >> >> > >>>> > > >> >> > >>>> > > >> >> > >>>> > > >> >> > >>>> Mark > > >> >> > >>>> > > >> >> > >>>> > > >> >> > >>>> > > >> >> > >>>> > > >> >> > >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> >> > >>> ----------- > > >> >> > >>>> WISPA Wants You! 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