That's something that has always irked me. Congress got the ball rolling when 
the term limits were created for the office of the President, yet we cannot get 
that same body to set limits for themselves....makes you wonder.

The other part of this that bothers me, is how clueless the American people are 
when it comes to voting for congressional and state representatives in the 
district they live in. If people want change they have NO CHOICE but to pull 
the lever against the incumbent in their own districts. I don't care how good a 
job they might be doing, as a citizen you may hate and disapprove of every 
other representative, but you have NO RIGHT to vote those others out of office 
by virtue of WHERE you are registered to vote. The politicians know this very 
well. This is why you see all kinds of obscure grants and government projects 
get approved with oversized checks and press conferences just before an 
election. These are what congress calls member line item projects, others call 
them pork barrel projects. The reality is they are buying votes for those who 
pull the lever and have short term memory.

It breeds politicians who think they are invincible and not accountable to the 
people, but rather to the political system in the houses where they hold seats. 
If the public were to en masse vote every incumbent out of office, it MIGHT 
give a wake up call to these folks that they should answer to their 
constituents rather than the dysfunctional system they do today.

Sorry, couldn't help myself. I normally try to stay out of any political 
discussion on these lists....



Thank You,
Brian Webster



-----Original Message-----
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]on
Behalf Of Brad Belton
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 8:29 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Follow up article


There's nothing wrong with the two party system.  The problem is the people 
that are in the two party system.  

Vote the career politicians out of office.  This goes for both parties...in 
fact I view many of the incumbent Republicans in a dimmer light than the 
Democrats.  Any Republican that has strayed too far from conservative core 
values needs to go IMO.

Brad

-----Original Message-----
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Philip Dorr
Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 11:56 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Follow up article

I would find it interesting if the runner up was the victor, of course
there wold have to actually be more than our current two party
majority system.

On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 11:38 PM, Josh Luthman
<j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
> I have not voted to this day, to be honest.
>
> It is the masses and "the public" that votes and they well out number me.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue
> that counts.”
> --- Winston Churchill
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 12:37 AM, Glenn Kelley <gl...@hostmedic.com> wrote:
>
>> Josh
>>
>> How does it feel to be in the middle of a state where your vote hardly
>> matters?
>>
>> I, in NJ had the same issue until recently.
>>
>> Let's hope the larger cities finally wake the heck up!
>>
>>
>> On Feb 1, 2010, at 11:56 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>
>> > You know I really didn't like Obama in the beginning.
>> >
>> > Now he's really pissing me off.
>> >
>> > Josh Luthman
>> > Office: 937-552-2340
>> > Direct: 937-552-2343
>> > 1100 Wayne St
>> > Suite 1337
>> > Troy, OH 45373
>> >
>> > “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
>> > continue
>> > that counts.”
>> > --- Winston Churchill
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 11:53 PM, RickG <rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> I was just wondering about this the other day. It seems that we
>> >> (USA) give
>> >> things away so freely only to have them used against us. In the
>> >> case of the
>> >> net, I find it ironic that the very thing we developed is being
>> >> used to
>> >> attack our government and our people in so many ways yet we let
>> >> everyone
>> >> connect to it. I think we should start cutting of the ilk that hack
>> >> or
>> >> attempt to hack into our networks.
>> >> -RickG
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 11:31 PM, Chuck Profito <cprof...@cv-
>> >> access.com
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>> From NewsMax:
>> >>>
>> >>> Obama Surrendering Internet to Foreign Powers
>> >>>
>> >>> Sunday, 31 Jan 2010 06:41 PM Article Font Size
>> >>> By: Bradley A. Blakeman
>> >>>
>> >>> Without the ingenuity of America's brightest minds and the
>> >>> investment of
>> >>> U.S. taxpayer dollars, there would be no Internet, as we now know it
>> >> today.
>> >>>
>> >>> Now, the Obama administration has moved quietly to cede control of
>> >>> the
>> >> Web
>> >>> from the United States to foreign powers.
>> >>>
>> >>> Some background: The Internet came into being because of the
>> >>> genius work
>> >> of
>> >>> Americans Dr.Robert E. Kahn and Dr. Vinton G. Cerf. These men, while
>> >>> working
>> >>> for the Department of Defense in the Defense Advanced Research
>> >>> Projects
>> >>> Agency in the early 1970s, conceived, designed, and implemented
>> >>> the idea
>> >> of
>> >>> "open-architecture networking."
>> >>>
>> >>> This breakthrough in connectivity and networking was the birth of
>> >>> the
>> >>> Internet.
>> >>>
>> >>> These two gentlemen had the vision and the brainpower to create a
>> >> worldwide
>> >>> computer Internet communications network that forever changed the
>> >>> world
>> >> and
>> >>> how we communicate in it.
>> >>>
>> >>> They discovered that providing a person with a unique identifier
>> >>> (TCP/IP)that was able to be recognized and interact through a
>> >>> network of
>> >>> servers would allow users to communicate with others.
>> >>>
>> >>> The servers woulduse a series of giant receivers to recognize the
>> >>> identifier
>> >>> and connect networks to networks, passing on information from
>> >>> computer to
>> >>> computer in a seamless real-time exchange of information. This new
>> >> process
>> >>> of communication became know as the "information super highway,"
>> >>> aka, the
>> >>> Internet.
>> >>>
>> >>> Now for the bad news: In an effort to show the world how inclusive,
>> >>> sharing,
>> >>> cooperative, and international America can be, the Obama
>> >>> administration
>> >> set
>> >>> off on a plan to surrender control and key management of the
>> >>> Internet by
>> >>> the
>> >>> U.S. Department of Commerce and its agents.
>> >>>
>> >>> The key to the control America has over the Internet is through the
>> >>> management of the Domain Name System (DNS) and the giant servers
>> >>> that
>> >>> service the Internet.
>> >>>
>> >>> Domain names are managed through an entity named IANA, the Internet
>> >>> Assigned
>> >>> Numbers Authority. The IANA, which operates on behalf of the U.S.
>> >>> Department
>> >>> of Commerce, is responsible for the global coordination of the
>> >>> DNS, IP
>> >>> addressing, and other Internet protocol resources.
>> >>>
>> >>> In short, without an IP Address or other essential Internet
>> >>> protocols, a
>> >>> person or entity would not have access to the Internet.
>> >>>
>> >>> For years, the international community has been pressuring the
>> >>> United
>> >>> States
>> >>> to surrender its control and management of the Internet. They want
>> >>> an
>> >>> international body such as the United Nations or even the
>> >>> International
>> >>> Telecommunications Union, (an entity that coordinates international
>> >>> telephone communications), to manage all aspects of the Internet in
>> >> behalf
>> >>> of all nations.
>> >>>
>> >>> The argument advanced for those seeking international control of the
>> >>> Internet is that the Internet has become such a powerful,
>> >>> pervasive, and
>> >> a
>> >>> dependent form of international communications, that it would be
>> >> dangerous
>> >>> and inequitable for any one nation to control and manage it.
>> >>>
>> >>> Just this past spring, within months of Obama's taking office, his
>> >>> administration, through the Department of Commerce, agreed to
>> >>> relinquish
>> >>> some control over IANA and their governance. The Obama
>> >>> administration has
>> >>> agreed to give greater representation to foreign companies and
>> >>> countries
>> >> on
>> >>> IANA.
>> >>>
>> >>> This amounts to one small step for internationalism and one giant
>> >>> leap
>> >> for
>> >>> surrendering America's control over an invention we have every
>> >>> right and
>> >>> responsibility to control and manage.
>> >>>
>> >>> It is in America's economic and national security interests not to
>> >>> relinquish any control. We are responsible for the control,
>> >>> operation,
>> >> and
>> >>> functionality of one of the modern world's greatest inventions and
>> >>> most
>> >>> powerful communications network.
>> >>>
>> >>> What better country to protect the Internet than the United States?
>> >>>
>> >>> We invented it, and we paid for the research and implementation
>> >>> that made
>> >>> it
>> >>> possible. We are the freest, most tolerant nation on earth, we
>> >>> believe in
>> >>> the
>> >>> fundamental right of free speech, and we practice a free market of
>> >> commerce
>> >>> and ideas.
>> >>>
>> >>> America has always been against censorship and has shared its
>> >>> invention
>> >>> with
>> >>> the world without fee or unreasonable or arbitrary restriction.
>> >>> The user
>> >>> fee
>> >>> to operate on the Internet is not one paid to the U.S. government; a
>> >>> consumer pays it to private Internet companies, who provide access
>> >>> to the
>> >>> Internet through servers for their subscribers.
>> >>>
>> >>> Look no further than China's recent move against Google to censor
>> >>> the
>> >>> Internet, and you can envision what can happen when other nations
>> >>> less
>> >> free
>> >>> than the United States seek to control the Internet beyond even
>> >>> their own
>> >>> borders.
>> >>>
>> >>> America needs to wake up. If we lose control over the management
>> >>> of the
>> >>> Internet, we have given away one of our nation's greatest assets
>> >>> with
>> >>> nothing
>> >>> in return to show for it.
>> >>>
>> >>> The Obama administration's actions will set in motion a slow and
>> >>> complete
>> >>> takeover of the Internet by the United Nations or some other equally
>> >>> U.S.-hostile and unfriendly international body. And once it is
>> >>> gone, it
>> >>> will
>> >>> be gone forever.
>> >>>
>> >>> The surrender of the Internet will spell disaster for our nation,
>> >>> financially, as well as for safety, security and our standing as a
>> >>> great
>> >>> power that values freedom and the free exchange of ideas and
>> >>> information.
>> >>>
>> >>> As far as I am concerned, America is still the last best hope for
>> >>> a more
>> >>> peaceful and prosperous world and our president should not be
>> >>> looking for
>> >>> ways to weaken us. Rather, his job is to work to strengthen us and
>> >> protect
>> >>> our nation's greatest asset our people's creativity and ingenuity.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Bradley A. Blakeman, who was a deputy assistant to President
>> >>> George W.
>> >> Bush
>> >>> from 2001-20004, teaches Public Policy & Politics & International
>> >>> Affairs
>> >>> at
>> >>> Georgetown University.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> C Newsmax. All rights reserved.
>> >>>
>> >>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-
>> >>> boun...@wispa.org] On
>> >>> Behalf Of RickG
>> >>> Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 4:58 PM
>> >>> To: WISPA General List
>> >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Commissioner Robert McDowell's statement on
>> >>> Broadband...
>> >>>
>> >>> I wonder what the catch is :)
>> >>> -RickG
>> >>>
>> >>> On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 4:07 PM, MDK <rea...@muddyfrogwater.us>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> "First, do harm".
>> >>>>
>> >>>> http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-296081A1.pdf
>> >>>>
>> >>>> This speech was made at the end of January...  At least ONE
>> >>> commissioner's
>> >>>> got his head on straight...
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>
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