One day soon - either Ron Paul or someone like him. As soon as enough people
get pissed off. -RickG

On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 1:21 AM, Josh Luthman <[email protected]>wrote:

> I was going to vote but then I realized there was no space for Ron Paul.
>
> On 2/2/10, Eje Gustafsson <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Every vote counts. For every guy that thinks not there is two other that
> > don't vote. If people came over this mentality your vote would matter
> > because no matter what people think they are not alone in their believes.
> >
> > Look at the 2008 President election
> > State    Margin
> > Missouri 0.14%
> > NC       0.32%
> > Indiana  1.04%
> > NE 2nd cong dist 1.19%
> > MT       2.25%
> > Florida  2.82%
> > Ohio     4.59% (your state)
> > These states represented 88 electoral votes
> >
> > States/districts with margin more than 5% but less than 10 represented
> > another 64 electoral votes.
> >
> > Missouri there was a total of 3903 votes difference. Never say a vote do
> NOT
> > count.
> >
> > I could really go at it and say that Americans should be ASHAMED of
> > themselves. You bitch you moan about government and politics but only 63%
> of
> > those that bothered to register to vote did vote in the last election for
> > president. The SADEST part about it is that was a 10million voter
> increase
> > over previous election.
> > There is some 210million people registered to vote 132million bothered.
> >
> > Take this in comparison with say Sweden (which I know a lot of since I'm
> > original from there)
> > In Sweden you do NOT have to registered to vote. Once your 18 you are not
> > only eligible to vote but your expected to vote. Consider there is no
> > obligation and everyone 18 and older is considered a "registered voter".
> In
> > the last 30 years (vote for Parliament, no we don't have a president or
> king
> > with powers) the LOWEST voting record was 80.1% and highest 91.8% turn
> out
> > to vote.
> >
> > So end of 2012 anyone here I do not want to hear that they didn't vote.
> Go
> > vote and while you are at it bring a friend or three to vote as well.
> Your
> > voice can be heard. I'm sure there are at least 4000 people in Missouri
> that
> > are today glad they voted to show the color of their state.
> > North Carolina there is probably 14000 people today that wished they had
> > voted.
> >
> > Alright of my soap box.
> >
> > Back to wireless talk for me doing my once a year of topic outburst ;)
> >
> > / Eje
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
> > Behalf Of Josh Luthman
> > Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 11:39 PM
> > To: WISPA General List
> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Follow up article
> >
> > I have not voted to this day, to be honest.
> >
> > It is the masses and "the public" that votes and they well out number me.
> >
> > Josh Luthman
> > Office: 937-552-2340
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> > Troy, OH 45373
> >
> > "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
> continue
> > that counts."
> > --- Winston Churchill
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 12:37 AM, Glenn Kelley <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Josh
> >>
> >> How does it feel to be in the middle of a state where your vote hardly
> >> matters?
> >>
> >> I, in NJ had the same issue until recently.
> >>
> >> Let's hope the larger cities finally wake the heck up!
> >>
> >>
> >> On Feb 1, 2010, at 11:56 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
> >>
> >> > You know I really didn't like Obama in the beginning.
> >> >
> >> > Now he's really pissing me off.
> >> >
> >> > Josh Luthman
> >> > Office: 937-552-2340
> >> > Direct: 937-552-2343
> >> > 1100 Wayne St
> >> > Suite 1337
> >> > Troy, OH 45373
> >> >
> >> > "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
> >> > continue
> >> > that counts."
> >> > --- Winston Churchill
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 11:53 PM, RickG <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> I was just wondering about this the other day. It seems that we
> >> >> (USA) give
> >> >> things away so freely only to have them used against us. In the
> >> >> case of the
> >> >> net, I find it ironic that the very thing we developed is being
> >> >> used to
> >> >> attack our government and our people in so many ways yet we let
> >> >> everyone
> >> >> connect to it. I think we should start cutting of the ilk that hack
> >> >> or
> >> >> attempt to hack into our networks.
> >> >> -RickG
> >> >>
> >> >> On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 11:31 PM, Chuck Profito <cprof...@cv-
> >> >> access.com
> >> >>> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>>> From NewsMax:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Obama Surrendering Internet to Foreign Powers
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Sunday, 31 Jan 2010 06:41 PM Article Font Size
> >> >>> By: Bradley A. Blakeman
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Without the ingenuity of America's brightest minds and the
> >> >>> investment of
> >> >>> U.S. taxpayer dollars, there would be no Internet, as we now know it
> >> >> today.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Now, the Obama administration has moved quietly to cede control of
> >> >>> the
> >> >> Web
> >> >>> from the United States to foreign powers.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Some background: The Internet came into being because of the
> >> >>> genius work
> >> >> of
> >> >>> Americans Dr.Robert E. Kahn and Dr. Vinton G. Cerf. These men, while
> >> >>> working
> >> >>> for the Department of Defense in the Defense Advanced Research
> >> >>> Projects
> >> >>> Agency in the early 1970s, conceived, designed, and implemented
> >> >>> the idea
> >> >> of
> >> >>> "open-architecture networking."
> >> >>>
> >> >>> This breakthrough in connectivity and networking was the birth of
> >> >>> the
> >> >>> Internet.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> These two gentlemen had the vision and the brainpower to create a
> >> >> worldwide
> >> >>> computer Internet communications network that forever changed the
> >> >>> world
> >> >> and
> >> >>> how we communicate in it.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> They discovered that providing a person with a unique identifier
> >> >>> (TCP/IP)that was able to be recognized and interact through a
> >> >>> network of
> >> >>> servers would allow users to communicate with others.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> The servers woulduse a series of giant receivers to recognize the
> >> >>> identifier
> >> >>> and connect networks to networks, passing on information from
> >> >>> computer to
> >> >>> computer in a seamless real-time exchange of information. This new
> >> >> process
> >> >>> of communication became know as the "information super highway,"
> >> >>> aka, the
> >> >>> Internet.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Now for the bad news: In an effort to show the world how inclusive,
> >> >>> sharing,
> >> >>> cooperative, and international America can be, the Obama
> >> >>> administration
> >> >> set
> >> >>> off on a plan to surrender control and key management of the
> >> >>> Internet by
> >> >>> the
> >> >>> U.S. Department of Commerce and its agents.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> The key to the control America has over the Internet is through the
> >> >>> management of the Domain Name System (DNS) and the giant servers
> >> >>> that
> >> >>> service the Internet.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Domain names are managed through an entity named IANA, the Internet
> >> >>> Assigned
> >> >>> Numbers Authority. The IANA, which operates on behalf of the U.S.
> >> >>> Department
> >> >>> of Commerce, is responsible for the global coordination of the
> >> >>> DNS, IP
> >> >>> addressing, and other Internet protocol resources.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> In short, without an IP Address or other essential Internet
> >> >>> protocols, a
> >> >>> person or entity would not have access to the Internet.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> For years, the international community has been pressuring the
> >> >>> United
> >> >>> States
> >> >>> to surrender its control and management of the Internet. They want
> >> >>> an
> >> >>> international body such as the United Nations or even the
> >> >>> International
> >> >>> Telecommunications Union, (an entity that coordinates international
> >> >>> telephone communications), to manage all aspects of the Internet in
> >> >> behalf
> >> >>> of all nations.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> The argument advanced for those seeking international control of the
> >> >>> Internet is that the Internet has become such a powerful,
> >> >>> pervasive, and
> >> >> a
> >> >>> dependent form of international communications, that it would be
> >> >> dangerous
> >> >>> and inequitable for any one nation to control and manage it.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Just this past spring, within months of Obama's taking office, his
> >> >>> administration, through the Department of Commerce, agreed to
> >> >>> relinquish
> >> >>> some control over IANA and their governance. The Obama
> >> >>> administration has
> >> >>> agreed to give greater representation to foreign companies and
> >> >>> countries
> >> >> on
> >> >>> IANA.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> This amounts to one small step for internationalism and one giant
> >> >>> leap
> >> >> for
> >> >>> surrendering America's control over an invention we have every
> >> >>> right and
> >> >>> responsibility to control and manage.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> It is in America's economic and national security interests not to
> >> >>> relinquish any control. We are responsible for the control,
> >> >>> operation,
> >> >> and
> >> >>> functionality of one of the modern world's greatest inventions and
> >> >>> most
> >> >>> powerful communications network.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> What better country to protect the Internet than the United States?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> We invented it, and we paid for the research and implementation
> >> >>> that made
> >> >>> it
> >> >>> possible. We are the freest, most tolerant nation on earth, we
> >> >>> believe in
> >> >>> the
> >> >>> fundamental right of free speech, and we practice a free market of
> >> >> commerce
> >> >>> and ideas.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> America has always been against censorship and has shared its
> >> >>> invention
> >> >>> with
> >> >>> the world without fee or unreasonable or arbitrary restriction.
> >> >>> The user
> >> >>> fee
> >> >>> to operate on the Internet is not one paid to the U.S. government; a
> >> >>> consumer pays it to private Internet companies, who provide access
> >> >>> to the
> >> >>> Internet through servers for their subscribers.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Look no further than China's recent move against Google to censor
> >> >>> the
> >> >>> Internet, and you can envision what can happen when other nations
> >> >>> less
> >> >> free
> >> >>> than the United States seek to control the Internet beyond even
> >> >>> their own
> >> >>> borders.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> America needs to wake up. If we lose control over the management
> >> >>> of the
> >> >>> Internet, we have given away one of our nation's greatest assets
> >> >>> with
> >> >>> nothing
> >> >>> in return to show for it.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> The Obama administration's actions will set in motion a slow and
> >> >>> complete
> >> >>> takeover of the Internet by the United Nations or some other equally
> >> >>> U.S.-hostile and unfriendly international body. And once it is
> >> >>> gone, it
> >> >>> will
> >> >>> be gone forever.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> The surrender of the Internet will spell disaster for our nation,
> >> >>> financially, as well as for safety, security and our standing as a
> >> >>> great
> >> >>> power that values freedom and the free exchange of ideas and
> >> >>> information.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> As far as I am concerned, America is still the last best hope for
> >> >>> a more
> >> >>> peaceful and prosperous world and our president should not be
> >> >>> looking for
> >> >>> ways to weaken us. Rather, his job is to work to strengthen us and
> >> >> protect
> >> >>> our nation's greatest asset our people's creativity and ingenuity.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Bradley A. Blakeman, who was a deputy assistant to President
> >> >>> George W.
> >> >> Bush
> >> >>> from 2001-20004, teaches Public Policy & Politics & International
> >> >>> Affairs
> >> >>> at
> >> >>> Georgetown University.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> C Newsmax. All rights reserved.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >> >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:wireless-
> >> >>> [email protected]] On
> >> >>> Behalf Of RickG
> >> >>> Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 4:58 PM
> >> >>> To: WISPA General List
> >> >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Commissioner Robert McDowell's statement on
> >> >>> Broadband...
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I wonder what the catch is :)
> >> >>> -RickG
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 4:07 PM, MDK <[email protected]>
> >> >>> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>> "First, do harm".
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-296081A1.pdf
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> This speech was made at the end of January...  At least ONE
> >> >>> commissioner's
> >> >>>> got his head on straight...
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
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