As a mention of LV, people may want to consider this convention. If you want free passes for the exhibit floor let me know
http://iwceexpo.com/iwce2010/public/enter.aspx Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jayson Baker" <jay...@spectrasurf.com> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 10:42 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show > Why would you not have it at Vegas, like most other conventions? Most > days > we can fly there and back for under $100 total round-trip. Rooms are > cheap, > and there is plenty of other stuff to do. Oh, and free booze. :-) > > On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 9:36 PM, Blake Bowers <bbow...@mozarks.com> wrote: > >> I have never had a problem finding rooms at Dayton, usually with my >> normal reservations taking place 2-3 days before the show. Never. >> >> Now, the hamvention, like all the other hamfests, is no where near as >> packed >> as >> it was 10 years ago too. >> >> 4 years ago I did not even have reservations and found rooms at the first >> place I stopped at, a Drury. >> >> Don't take your organs to heaven, >> heaven knows we need them down here! >> Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Brian Webster" <bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com> >> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >> Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 9:04 PM >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show >> >> >> > Not a bad idea, Dayton would be problematic as it has limited lodging >> > in >> > the >> > area and the hams already book that capacity up long before the >> > convention. >> > There are other large regional hamfests that might be a good fit for >> > your >> > idea however. The one problem that may arise from those is that the >> > locations in many cases won't be in areas where the airports have a lot >> of >> > competition so the WISP attendees would more than likely have to pay >> > higher >> > airfare. >> > >> > >> > >> > Thank You, >> > Brian Webster >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]on >> > Behalf Of Robert West >> > Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 9:06 PM >> > To: 'WISPA General List' >> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show >> > >> > >> > Okay, I'd like to throw an idea out there and see who yells...... >> > >> > I had a thought that maybe it could be held at the same time as one of >> the >> > large Ham conventions, like the one they hold in Dayton, Ohio. Only so >> > much >> > I can see and do at a 3 day event, would be great to be able to go >> > across >> > town or wherever to another event that would have a lot of the same >> > sort >> > of >> > towers, tools, safety gear that we use as Wisp operators. No way would >> we >> > get these type of vendors to come to a Wisp only show, in my opinion. >> The >> > bonus is, it could be used as a marketing tool to bring in even more >> > people >> > without any more effort. I'd certainly go out of my way for an event >> that >> > would cover radio gear as well as the hardware and safety. A lot of us >> > WISP >> > operators deal with HAMS and go to their conventions anyhow. Unless, >> > of >> > course, the WISPA show is stuffed with a full assortment of what we >> > use. >> > :) >> > >> > >> > Anyway, just an idea. >> > >> > Bob- >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >> > Behalf Of Matt Larsen - Lists >> > Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 1:31 PM >> > To: WISPA General List >> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show >> > >> > All due respect Marlon, but I'm going to disagree with your >> > assumptions. >> > >> > I have spent the last three months researching the possibility of >> > putting on a show and evaluating our options. Before I started on >> > that >> > process, I felt the same way that you do about WISPA putting on our own >> > show. I thought that it would be some work, but doable, and had some >> > potential as a fund raiser. >> > >> > What was truly eye opening to me is the amount of work that is needed >> > to >> > put a show on properly. IMHO, WISPCON got lucky on the first show and >> > then it degraded when the organizational and sales efforts did not >> > scale >> > up to the potential of the show. The market is quite different right >> > now, and I don't think that we would be as lucky as P-15 was back in >> > the >> > day. >> > >> > Ed's group puts on trade shows - that is their focus. They are >> > willing >> > to do it at no cost to us, and to help us build our membership up so >> > that both sides will benefit. They don't know much about the WISP >> > business, so we have an opportunity to work with them to design a show >> > that our members would all like to go to. They are going to do it on >> > a much larger scale than what we had planned on doing, so we can spread >> > WISPAs message beyond our own little community. Those are strong >> > positives. >> > >> > Most importantly, we will not have to commit our money or manpower to >> > the project. Money is not that big of a deal, but manpower is. We >> > will not be able to put on a show with volunteer manpower, and it isn't >> > really a question of just hiring someone because the job requirements >> > go >> > far beyond just being an ED type or a sales person. These guys have a >> > staff of people who specialize in this kind of work and can get it done >> > more effectively and at a larger scale than we could ever dream of >> > doing >> > on our own. >> > >> > All this being said - if the show is a flop, there will be an "out" so >> > that we can go back to plan A next year if that is what needs to >> > happen. For 2010, it makes more sense to work with professionals to >> > get a show put on. >> > >> > Matt Larsen >> > vistabeam.com >> > >> > >> > Marlon K. Schafer wrote: >> >> forwarding to the list. >> >> >> >> Matt/Forbes, can someone please set the list to reply to the list >> >> rather >> >> than to the sender? Thanks, >> >> >> >> Matt, understood. I'd disagree with that plan of action though. We >> need >> >> our own show. It should be a fund raiser for WISPA. >> >> >> >> Near as I can tell Ed's planning on more of an ISPCon type of a show. >> >> I >> >> believe we need more of a WISPCon kind of event. Lower cost, more >> > intimate >> >> etc. >> >> >> >> I'd suggest that we step back and set a show date for later in the >> >> year. >> > It >> >> shouldn't take more than a few months to put something together. We >> know >> >> who the vendors and attendees would be. And we know, basically, what >> > would >> >> need to be presented. >> >> >> >> The members want a show. The vendors want a show. Someone just has >> >> to >> >> DO >> > a >> >> show. >> >> >> >> If we can't find anyone to run the effort that certainly changes >> >> things. >> >> I'm not interested in that job (putting together a Dirtbike one for >> >> here >> >> right now, it's not bad but does take time...) right now. >> >> >> >> laters, >> >> marlon >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: <li...@manageisp.com> >> >> To: "Marlon K. Schafer" <o...@odessaoffice.com> >> >> Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 9:53 PM >> >> Subject: Re: [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> Marlon, >> >>> The tentative plan with Ed's group is that we will put our efforts >> >>> into >> >>> his show, and that we will not be doing our own show as long as both >> > sides >> >>> are happy with the performance of his show. >> >>> Also, since we are not putting any money into it, there is no profit >> >>> sharing. They put in the money and the manpower, they get the >> >>> profit, >> > if >> >>> there is any. Our goal in this is to build up our membership >> >>> numbers >> > and >> >>> leverage their promotional and marketing efforts to get the word out >> > about >> >>> WISPA and get people to the show so we can turn them into members. >> >>> This is going to end up similar to our agreement with ISPCON, but we >> >>> will >> > >> >>> have more say in the structure and educational parts of the show. >> >>> Also, >> > >> >>> it should cost us little or no money. >> >>> Matt Larsen >> >>> vistabeam.com >> >>> Marlon K. Schafer writes: >> >>> >> >>>> Hi Matt, In the end I still think we should have our own show. How >> >>>> clear >> > >> >>>> will it be made to Ed's group that we'll still be working to our own >> > show >> >>>> at a later date? Also, how are we going to insure that we don't end >> >>>> up >> >>>> with the same problem we did with Charles for his first show? Where >> >>>> there is no profit to split? >> >>>> marlon ----- Original Message ----- >> >>>> From: "Matt Larsen - Lists" <li...@manageisp.com> >> >>>> To: <wispas...@wispa.org> >> >>>> Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 10:59 PM >> >>>> Subject: [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show >> >>>> >> >>>>> After our visits with the people interested in the trade show and >> >>>>> evaluating our options, Forbes and I are making the decision to >> >>>>> work >> >>>>> with Ed Meek's group to help promote their wireless show, with >> >>>>> WISPA >> >>>>> as >> >>>>> one of the "anchors" of the show. >> >>>>> The details are yet to be worked out. What has been discussed so >> far >> >>>>> is that WISPA will be featured prominently in the promotional >> efforts, >> >>>>> we will provide the educational tracks for the wireless broadband >> >>>>> section of the show and we will have considerable influence on what >> >>>>> events, speakers and specialized sessions (ISP-CEO type >> >>>>> discussions) >> >>>>> will be conducted as part of the show. We will also be able to >> >>>>> re-start the WISPA awards and present them at the show. There >> >>>>> was >> >>>>> also a discussion about substantial discounts for WISPA members to >> >>>>> attend - enough to highly incentivise attendees to join WISPA >> >>>>> before >> > the >> >>>>> show. >> >>>>> Rather than putting on our own show, we will play a large part in >> this >> >>>>> show. There will still be a lot of work to be done, and I will >> share >> >>>>> details after we get them worked out with the promoters. >> >>>>> Any questions or concerns, please submit them on the list and we >> >>>>> can >> > get >> >>>>> them worked out. >> >>>>> Matt Larsen >> >>>>> vistabeam.com >> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>>> Wispashow mailing list >> >>>>> wispas...@wispa.org >> >>>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wispashow >> >>>>> >> >>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>> Wispashow mailing list >> >>>> wispas...@wispa.org >> >>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wispashow >> >>>> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Wispashow mailing list >> >> wispas...@wispa.org >> >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wispashow >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > ---- >> > WISPA Wants You! 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