I've never been to Mendelson's myself :P

On 2/3/10, Robert West <robert.w...@just-micro.com> wrote:
> Okay, and you might want to sit down for this one because the idea of it
> just makes me jump........ (Unlike when I see a mouse and scream like a
> little girl)
>
> A trip to Mendelsons!
>
> For those of you who aren't hip to Mendlesons.....  Uh.......  It's
> sometimes best to not know about heaven if you can never go there.
>
>
> Bob-
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Justin Wilson
> Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 10:55 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show
>
>     Dayton also has some activities that could be planned. Air force museum,
> and others.  The Flea market always has computer and networking stuff as
> well.
> --
> Justin Wilson <j...@mtin.net>
> CCNA - CCNT - Mikrotik Advanced
> http://j2sw.mtin.net/blog
>
>
>
> From: Robert West <robert.w...@just-micro.com>
> Reply-To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
> Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 22:47:15 -0500
> To: 'WISPA General List' <wireless@wispa.org>
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show
>
> We're already past you on the spare bedroom, dude.
>
> Bob-
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
> Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 10:45 PM
> To: bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com; WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show
>
> Then get a hotel in Troy.  I am positive they're not full.  I've got a
> spare bedroom, too :P
>
> On 2/3/10, Brian Webster <bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com> wrote:
>> Not a bad idea, Dayton would be problematic as it has limited lodging in
> the
>> area and the hams already book that capacity up long before the
> convention.
>> There are other large regional hamfests that might be a good fit for your
>> idea however. The one problem that may arise from those is that the
>> locations in many cases won't be in areas where the airports have a lot of
>> competition so the WISP attendees would more than likely have to pay
> higher
>> airfare.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank You,
>> Brian Webster
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]on
>> Behalf Of Robert West
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 9:06 PM
>> To: 'WISPA General List'
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show
>>
>>
>> Okay, I'd like to throw an idea out there and see who yells......
>>
>> I had a thought that maybe it could be held at the same time as one of the
>> large Ham conventions, like the one they hold in Dayton, Ohio.  Only so
> much
>> I can see and do at a 3 day event, would be great to be able to go across
>> town or wherever to another event that would have a lot of the same sort
> of
>> towers, tools, safety gear that we use as Wisp operators.  No way would we
>> get these type of vendors to come to a Wisp only show, in my opinion.  The
>> bonus is, it could be used as a marketing tool to bring in even more
> people
>> without any more effort.  I'd certainly go out of my way for an event that
>> would cover radio gear as well as the hardware and safety.  A lot of us
> WISP
>> operators deal with HAMS and go to their conventions anyhow.  Unless, of
>> course, the WISPA show is stuffed with a full assortment of what we use.
>> :)
>>
>>
>> Anyway, just an idea.
>>
>> Bob-
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Matt Larsen - Lists
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 1:31 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show
>>
>> All due respect Marlon, but I'm going to disagree with your assumptions.
>>
>> I have spent the last three months researching the possibility of
>> putting on a show and evaluating our options.   Before I started on that
>> process, I felt the same way that you do about WISPA putting on our own
>> show.   I thought that it would be some work, but doable, and had some
>> potential as a fund raiser.
>>
>> What was truly eye opening to me is the amount of work that is needed to
>> put a show on properly.   IMHO, WISPCON got lucky on the first show and
>> then it degraded when the organizational and sales efforts did not scale
>> up to the potential of the show.   The market is quite different right
>> now, and I don't think that we would be as lucky as P-15 was back in the
>> day.
>>
>> Ed's group puts on trade shows - that is their focus.   They are willing
>> to do it at no cost to us, and to help us build our membership up so
>> that both sides will benefit.   They don't know much about the WISP
>> business, so we have an opportunity to work with them to design a show
>> that our members would all like to go to.    They are going to do it on
>> a much larger scale than what we had planned on doing, so we can spread
>> WISPAs message beyond our own little community.    Those are strong
>> positives.
>>
>> Most importantly, we will not have to commit our money or manpower to
>> the project.    Money is not that big of a deal, but manpower is.    We
>> will not be able to put on a show with volunteer manpower, and it isn't
>> really a question of just hiring someone because the job requirements go
>> far beyond just being an ED type or a sales person.   These guys have a
>> staff of people who specialize in this kind of work and can get it done
>> more effectively and at a larger scale than we could ever dream of doing
>> on our own.
>>
>> All this being said - if the show is a flop, there will be an "out" so
>> that we can go back to plan A next year if that is what needs to
>> happen.   For 2010, it makes more sense to work with professionals to
>> get a show put on.
>>
>> Matt Larsen
>> vistabeam.com
>>
>>
>> Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
>>> forwarding to the list.
>>>
>>> Matt/Forbes, can someone please set the list to reply to the list rather
>>> than to the sender?  Thanks,
>>>
>>> Matt, understood.  I'd disagree with that plan of action though.  We need
>>> our own show.  It should be a fund raiser for WISPA.
>>>
>>> Near as I can tell Ed's planning on more of an ISPCon type of a show.  I
>>> believe we need more of a WISPCon kind of event.  Lower cost, more
>> intimate
>>> etc.
>>>
>>> I'd suggest that we step back and set a show date for later in the year.
>> It
>>> shouldn't take more than a few months to put something together.  We know
>>> who the vendors and attendees would be.  And we know, basically, what
>> would
>>> need to be presented.
>>>
>>> The members want a show.  The vendors want a show.  Someone just has to
> DO
>> a
>>> show.
>>>
>>> If we can't find anyone to run the effort that certainly changes things.
>>> I'm not interested in that job (putting together a Dirtbike one for here
>>> right now, it's not bad but does take time...) right now.
>>>
>>> laters,
>>> marlon
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: <li...@manageisp.com>
>>> To: "Marlon K. Schafer" <o...@odessaoffice.com>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 9:53 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Marlon,
>>>> The tentative plan with Ed's group is that we will put our efforts into
>>>> his show, and that we will not be doing our own show as long as both
>> sides
>>>> are happy with the performance of his show.
>>>> Also, since we are not putting any money into it, there is no profit
>>>> sharing.   They put in the money and the manpower, they get the profit,
>> if
>>>> there is any.   Our goal in this is to build up our membership numbers
>> and
>>>> leverage their promotional and marketing efforts to get the word out
>> about
>>>> WISPA and get people to the show so we can turn them into members.
>>>> This is going to end up similar to our agreement with ISPCON, but we
> will
>>
>>>> have more say in the structure and educational parts of the show.
> Also,
>>
>>>> it should cost us little or no money.
>>>> Matt Larsen
>>>> vistabeam.com
>>>> Marlon K. Schafer writes:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Matt, In the end I still think we should have our own show. How
> clear
>>
>>>>> will it be made to Ed's group that we'll still be working to our own
>> show
>>>>> at a later date? Also, how are we going to insure that we don't end up
>>>>> with the same problem we did with Charles for his first show?  Where
>>>>> there is no profit to split?
>>>>> marlon ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Matt Larsen - Lists" <li...@manageisp.com>
>>>>> To: <wispas...@wispa.org>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 10:59 PM
>>>>> Subject: [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show
>>>>>
>>>>>> After our visits with the people interested in the trade show and
>>>>>> evaluating our options, Forbes and I are making the decision to work
>>>>>> with Ed Meek's group to help promote their wireless show, with WISPA
> as
>>>>>> one of the "anchors" of the show.
>>>>>> The details are yet to be worked out.   What has been discussed so far
>>>>>> is that WISPA will be featured prominently in the promotional efforts,
>>>>>> we will provide the educational tracks for the wireless broadband
>>>>>> section of the show and we will have considerable influence on what
>>>>>> events, speakers and specialized sessions (ISP-CEO type discussions)
>>>>>> will be conducted as part of the show.   We will also be able to
>>>>>> re-start the WISPA awards and present them at the show.    There was
>>>>>> also a discussion about substantial discounts for WISPA members to
>>>>>> attend - enough to highly incentivise attendees to join WISPA before
>> the
>>>>>> show.
>>>>>> Rather than putting on our own show, we will play a large part in this
>>>>>> show.   There will still be a lot of work to be done, and I will share
>>>>>> details after we get them worked out with the promoters.
>>>>>> Any questions or concerns, please submit them on the list and we can
>> get
>>>>>> them worked out.
>>>>>> Matt Larsen
>>>>>> vistabeam.com
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