This is interesting: http://www.seizethepage.com/how-to-watch-espn360-if-it-is-not-provided-through-your-isp/
On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 10:15 AM, Marlon K. Schafer <[email protected]> wrote: > One of these days *someone* is going to find a way to create a network to > compete with ESPN and things will get a lot nicer! > > Fox Sports Northwest, out here, gets watched a LOT more than ESPN these > days. > marlon > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "jp" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]>; "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 2:51 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] here it come$ > > >> On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 02:38:44PM -0500, Larry Yunker wrote: >>> <RANT> >>> >>> Gee, now this (ESPN Live 360) won't make the Cable-Op internet providers >>> have an unfair advantage over traditional ISPs! >>> >>> You have to imagine that the cable-op's are negotiating this "internet >>> service" into their network programming agreements with EPSN, whereas if >>> you >>> are a non-cable-op you will have to pay outright and separate for the >>> service and then pass along that fee to all of your subscribers or more >>> likely... eat the cost. >> >> My understanding is that ESPN is the 800 pound gorilla here. You can't >> sell non-basic cable if you don't have ESPN. ESPN is reported to get >> $4/customer/month from the cable companies for providing the television >> programming it does. >> >> Things like this: >> http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/29/business/media/29cable.html happen all >> the time where the broadcasters and operators can't agree over money and >> threaten to shut off your favorite channels. A cable company might be >> persuaded to get espn360 to hedge their position incase they were afraid >> of hardball negotiations over their cable channel costs. It wounldn't be >> all or nothing with ESPN if they offered espn360. If they can't provide >> something, the customers will go straight to dish or directv. I'm not >> sticking up for the cable companies here. >> >> Those participating might also see the Internet as simply a conduit for >> proprietary and costly entertainment, which is a travesty in it's own >> right. That is something to rant about. >> >> >>> This is another case where a utility is able to abuse its monopoly power >>> to >>> the disadvantage of a non-utility ISP. The regulated and non-regulated >>> portions of a company that engages in internet service need to be forced >>> to >>> conduct business as arms-length transactions. >>> >>> For instance... if MegaCableCompany operates as a Cable TV provider and >>> operates as an internet provider, the Cable TV provider business unit is >>> regulated and enjoys an advantage as a utility, whereas the Internet >>> Provider Business Unit is unregulated and operates in an open market. >>> The >>> Cable TV unit is free to negotiate terms for TV programming from the >>> various >>> networks. The Internet Unit is free to negotiate terms of service for >>> internet related valued-added-services. Whereas, the Cable TV unit >>> should >>> not be permitted to negotiate terms for unrelated internet services. >>> (i.e. >>> ESPN Live 360). The CableTV unit as a utility providing TV service >>> should >>> have no interest in internet valued added services. However, in the >>> alternative... if the Cable TV unit were permitted to negotiate terms for >>> unrelated internet services, it should be prepared to offer those >>> services >>> to the open market at the same rate that it charges its own Internet >>> Service >>> Business Unit!! >>> >>> Of course.. this argument may sound familiar to some of you... I've made >>> this same argument time and time again for the unbundling of network >>> elements within the TelCo monopolies. If you sell phone service as a >>> utility, your associated unregulated ISP business unit should not enjoy >>> preferential pricing with regards to internet transport or internet >>> termination. >>> >>> </RANT> >>> >>> Larry Yunker >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >>> Behalf Of RickG >>> Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 1:57 PM >>> To: WISPA General List >>> Subject: [WISPA] here it come$ >>> >>> The television content providers are going to bill ISP's? >>> Try using ESPN Live 360 and see what it tells you. >>> -RickG >>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> ---- >>> WISPA Wants You! 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