We have a fiber link to ATT. All of our ESPN360 traffic goes across that fiber. It says "provided by ATT" but that's not a big deal to me if it saves me $500-1000/mth.
Regards, Chuck Hogg Shelby Broadband 502-722-9292 [email protected] http://www.shelbybb.com -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chuck Bartosch Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 11:21 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] here it come$ On Mar 12, 2010, at 11:20 PM, RickG wrote: > Actually, yes, this is the first I've heard about it. Obviously, I'm > not a sports fan :) I was initially surprised you hadn't heard of it before too because you're pretty active on list and it's been discussed numerous times and in detail over the past 15 months but maybe it was on another list (the WISPA members list?). Or, like the Form 477 discussions a few years ago that I personally skipped over for a long time, maybe it was just an ignored thread topic (given our propensity to not start new threads for new topics, that wouldn't be surprising). Most of us heard of it either due to customer complaints or because of the list discussion. For what it's worth, I honestly don't think the industry will ever move en-mass to a pay-by-the-bit model. True, it makes the most sense from an operator standpoint, but it's just too easy to get undercut by a competitor who doesn't do it, the big companies that would have to do it first for it to go mainstream invariably chicken out too quickly or mess it up by doing it in a high-handed fashion that pisses everyone off, or politicians will get involved to defeat the model. That's *my* prediction. Chuck > I've never had a customer request. I've have mixed feelings about > this. Coming from the cable world, I was used to paying providers for > channel content. The difference was, we didnt have to pay for > bandwidth. Now, everyone wants to ride the bandwidth that we pay for > to get to our customer. Maybe big bad ESPN should pay us? > .05/sub/month doesnt sound like much but it adds up real fast. Worse > yet, you still pay even though not everyone wants or needs it. Oh, and > just what we need, another paper to fill out. > I've been predicting since '97 that we'll have to charge the billing > model to charge by the bit and that day is getting closer each time > things like this occur. > -RickG > BTW: I did dial-up back in '93 and never paid for a TCP/IP stack or > the Browser :) > > On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 8:24 PM, Tim Sylvester <[email protected]> wrote: >> I'm confused by this message. Are you saying you just heard of ESPN360? It >> has been around since 2007. >> >> How much do you think big bad ESPN charges for ESPN360? I have seen >> estimates between $0.05/sub/month to $0.25/sub/month. As far as I can tell, >> any ISP can contact ESPN and sign-up to offer ESPN360 to their subscribers. >> Here's a link to the current list of ISPs offering ESPN360: >> http://espn.go.com/broadband/espn360/affList. The list of providers ranges >> from ATT and Verizon each with over 10M subs. Down to the Spencer Iowa >> Municipal Utilities and Spruce Knob Seneca Rocks Telephone, each with a few >> thousand subs. >> >> The list includes cable, DSL and FTTH ISPs. The only thing that might >> prevent a WISP from offering ESPN360 is bandwidth. >> >> ESPN360 is just an add-on service that an ISP can bundle with their service >> offerings to customers. Think of it like offering e-mail accounts or web >> sites. In the mid 90s, ISPs had to pay to provide a TCP/IP stack and a web >> browser to their customers. >> >> If the WISPA members think ESPN360 would be a useful to offer their >> customers, have someone contact ESPN to see if you can negotiate an ESPN360 >> contract for all WISPA members. >> >> Tim >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >>> Behalf Of RickG >>> Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 10:57 AM >>> To: WISPA General List >>> Subject: [WISPA] here it come$ >>> >>> The television content providers are going to bill ISP's? >>> Try using ESPN Live 360 and see what it tells you. >>> -RickG >>> >>> >>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> --------- >>> WISPA Wants You! 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