On top of that, as I recall the story when it first came out, they thumbed
their noses at everyone that told them to knock it off.
Basically, if this is the same company, they were jerks to everyone and
deserved to get whacked pretty hard.
marlon
----- Original Message -----
From: Jack Unger
To: WISPA General List
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 11:31 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Enforcements
Randy,
Thanks for the copy and paste.
What happened is that the WISP took a 5.8 GHz Motorola and re-tuned it for
the 5470-5725 MHz band. Therefore they were using it on a band that it was not
certified to operate on thus they were using a radio that was not certified on
the frequency that they were using it on. The FCC language is just the legal
way to describe what was taking place. To operate a radio on 5.60 GHz, they
would legally have to be using a) a radio that was certified for the 5470-5725
MHz band, or b) a radio that was licensed to be operating on 5.60 GHz (for
example, a TDWR system). Since neither (a) nor (b) was true, they were
operating illegally. If they had been using a legally certified Part-15,
license-free, 5470-5725 MHz radio, they would still have been asked to exclude
5.60 GHz (because it was interfering with the TDWR) but they would not have
been in violation of the law.
jack
Randy Cosby wrote:
Maybe I read too much into it, but here it he language I was referring to.
*
Radio stations must be licensed by the FCC pursuant to 47 U.S.C. S: 301.
* The only exception to this licensing requirement is for certain
transmitters using or operating at a power level or mode of operation that
complies with the standards established in Part 15 of the Commission's
rules. Nonlicensed operation pursuant to Part 15 of the FCC's rules,
however, is conditioned upon compliance with all applicable regulations in
the subpart. 47 C.F.R. S: 15.1(b). All intentional radiators, such as your
U-NII device, operating pursuant to Part 15 of the FCC's rules must be
certified for use as a Part 15 device. 47 C.F.R. S: 15.201(b). The
Motorola Canopy device, model # 5700BH20, FCC ID ABZ89F-C5804, is not
authorized for use on frequency 5.60 GHz. Accordingly, you are not in
compliance with the requirements of Part 15 of the FCC's rules. Therefore,
your operations must be licensed by the FCC.*The FCC has no record of a
license being issued to you to operate a transmitter on 5.61 GHz from your
location.*Thus, this station is operating in violation of 47 U.S.C.
S: 301.
http://www.fcc.gov/eb/FieldNotices/2003/DOC-290775A1.html
On 3/15/2010 12:16 PM, Jack Unger wrote:
I don't recall hearing or reading that but I don't have a photographic
memory (at least not anymore). Can you cut and paste a copy of the
language that you are referring to?
Randy Cosby wrote:
In the enforcement letters, it mentions licensing some of the 5.4
frequencies. Is that really even an option?
Randy
On 3/13/2010 9:50 AM, Jack Unger wrote:
That requirement was done several years ago to avoid military radars.
Kurt Fankhauser wrote:
If this radar operates at 5600-5650 why does the FCC now require the
DFS on
5300mhz ???
Kurt Fankhauser
WAVELINC
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
419-562-6405
www.wavelinc.com
-----Original Message-----
From:[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Jack Unger
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 2:42 PM
To: WISPA General List
Cc: WISPA's FCC Committee
Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Enforcements
Eric,
That is a very responsible position to take.
The database doesn't exist yet. Final definition and creation of it is
being worked on right now by the Industry Group (Motorola, Cisco,
Atheros, Intel, WISPA and others).
WISPA and the FCC Committee will be helping with industry outreach and
education so we will alert you (and as many other operators as possible)
on-list when there are major developments and when the database is ready.
Let me know which TDWR site you are near and I'll find out what
frequency they are using so you can remain 30 MHz away from it.
jack
(Chair - WISPA FCC Committee)
Eric Rogers wrote:
Jack,
Who do I contact to get on the list? I am like 5 miles from one of the
TDWR radar sites. We are using Motorola 5.4 with 9.5 so it supposedly
has more updated signatures. I would rather get on the list voluntarily
than they find me.
Eric
From:[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Jack Unger
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 2:00 PM
To:[email protected]; WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Enforcements
The FAA and NTIA want all outdoor operators to 1) verify if within 35
km, 2) if within 35 km, register your equipment and contact information
in a (voluntary) database so they know who to contact if there is an
interference problem, and 3) use channels that are more than 30 MHz away
from the single-frequency that the nearby TDWR uses.
jack
Nathan Stooke wrote:
Hello,
So in those areas they want no 5.2 or 5.4 at all or only in the
already blocked out part of the 5.4 band?
Thanks
-----Original Message-----
From:[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Brian Webster
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 9:53 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Enforcements
And here is a Google Earth file for the areas they want protected around
these radar sites.
Thank You,
Brian Webster
-----Original Message-----
From:[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 9:01 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Enforcements
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminal_Doppler_Weather_Radar
Attached is a map of TDWR locations in the United States. From what I
read
the radar has a range of 460 kilometers.
Kurt Fankhauser
WAVELINC
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
419-562-6405
www.wavelinc.com
-----Original Message-----
From:[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Blair Davis
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 3:26 AM
To:[email protected]; WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Enforcements
A thing to note...
All these enforcement actions were taken because of interference with
licensed users....
Lessons I get from them...
1) Stay off the 5.4GHz band
2) Keep your EIRP down
3) Check your installations for out of band emissions.
Leon D. Zetekoff wrote:
Was going through recent enforcement actions and came across
these:
http://www.fcc.gov/eb/FieldNotices/2003/DOC-296094A1.html
http://www.fcc.gov/eb/FieldNotices/2003/DOC-290776A1.html
http://www.fcc.gov/eb/FieldNotices/2003/DOC-290775A1.html
Make sure you are legal. You never know when a surprise can
happen.
Leon
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