Ah, but I use the handwarmers. Love them! But never tape them to anything. they saved many of my fingers this winter.
I keep them in my pocket for "just in case" Bop- Mother in law calls me Bop. I have no idea why. . ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike" <m...@aweiowa.com> To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 8:25 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Bullet Takes Down Entire Network....... Sigh.... > Remember when Marlon said to use latex gloves under your thinsulate ones? > Well being cheap, I bought nitryl plastic ones instead. Once I suffered > from near frostbite I learned my lesson. The box of gloves I bought at > harbor freight are now under the kitchen sink for toxic duty. Don't use > the > nitryl ones, your hands will get colder. > > I taped some of those handwarmer things, you kinow, the ones with iron > powder in them, to my wrists the same day. The inside of my wrists > suffered > second degree burns at the same time my fingertips froze. It was a fun > install. Thinsulate is your friend; handwarmers should not be used by > morons and wisp operators. > > -----Original Message----- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Josh Luthman > Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 11:05 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Bullet Takes Down Entire Network....... Sigh.... > > Don't we all know that feeling... > > I remember climbing 300' when it was below freezing, 30mph winds and > the snow was more wet then anything. Before I climbed one of the > customers said "You're killing my business". Mind you he has had no > issues outside of this instance, 6 months since we bought the network. > Half way up I just kept reciting that laughing at how ridiculous the > situation was - I'm way above the ground freezing my ass off to fix > just a few customers and they were that grateful. Gotta love it :) > > On 3/27/10, Robert West <robert.w...@just-micro.com> wrote: >> Both. Combination of Mikrotik and UBNT. UBNT bridged and the MT's > routed. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of Greg Ihnen >> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 11:39 AM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Bullet Takes Down Entire Network....... >> Sigh.... >> >> Is your network routed or bridged or a combination? >> >> Greg >> >> On Mar 27, 2010, at 11:00 AM, Robert West wrote: >> >>> The main thing that was throwing me is, even when I took the bad AP off >>> line, the rest of the network took a long time to recover. 5 minutes or >> so >>> and I wasn't waiting that long most of the time to see results, I was in > a >>> bit of a hurry so when it didn't settle, I moved onto the next. >>> >>> Bob- >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >>> Behalf Of Josh Luthman >>> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 11:17 AM >>> To: WISPA General List >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Bullet Takes Down Entire Network....... > Sigh.... >>> >>> Bridge loop, probably. >>> >>> 100M spitting out on to a backbone that can't handle that much >>> bandwidth. >>> >>> I had a Redline backhaul create a loop and it flooded the traffic >>> through >>> the rest of the network, taking out everything up until the 100M fiber >> tower >>> at which point I had ~60M to use. >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to > continue >>> that counts." >>> --- Winston Churchill >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Mike <m...@aweiowa.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I'd be curious how you figured out it was THAT unit causing the grief. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >>>> Behalf Of Robert West >>>> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 10:06 AM >>>> To: 'WISPA General List' >>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Bullet Takes Down Entire Network....... >> Sigh.... >>>> >>>> Yep. And it went everywhere. Must have got in through the inside of > the >>> N >>>> connector, that tape was wound pretty tight and I didn't see any water >>>> inside the tape. Took the Bullet apart, wasn't much water but the >>>> board >>>> was >>>> "moist" like condensation. Dried it all out, works fine now. Smeared >>> some >>>> RTV sealant on it to make me feel good but man, that was not much fun >>>> to >>>> ferret out. >>>> >>>> Bob- >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >>>> Behalf Of Josh Luthman >>>> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 11:01 AM >>>> To: WISPA General List >>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Bullet Takes Down Entire Network....... >> Sigh.... >>>> >>>> So much time spent learning how to deploy cheap Ubnt stuff. Not as >>>> bad as MikrotikN but geez. >>>> >>>> So the antenna full of water caused the bullet to go nuts and caused a >>>> packet storm, is that right? >>>> >>>> On 3/27/10, Robert West <robert.w...@just-micro.com> wrote: >>>>> HA! Had lots and lots of rain the other night. At around 2am I get >>>>> an >>>>> alarm, everything is losing connection. Everything. EVERYTHING! >>>> Started >>>>> on it at 7am, was everyplace trying to isolate sections, was driving >>>>> me >>>>> nuts. Finally, found one Bullet 5M that had a 5GHz stick antenna on >>>>> it >>>> (Was >>>>> for tech access on AP down on the ground, was a weird fix) and the > thing >>>> had >>>>> just enough water in it to cause it blast the network. Water? Well, >>> I'm >>>> a >>>>> freak for taping a waterproofing everything but on this, installer boy >>>>> (That's his official name) taped it alright but since it was a stick >>>> antenna >>>>> on it, taped the N connector on the bullet and then all the way up to >>> the >>>>> clamp on the antenna! Hmmmmmm.. That seems to cover the DRAIN HOLES > on >>>> the >>>>> bottom of the antenna. (We'll have a talk. Another one.) Antenna, >>>>> of >>>>> course, full of water. Must have filled up then had enough pressure >>>>> to >>>> seep >>>>> through the tape somehow into the Bullet. Nice. So here it is, this >>>> little >>>>> nothing off in the corner doing it's dirty work all over the network. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> It hates me. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Had to share. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Robert West >>>>> >>>>> Just Micro Digital Services Inc. >>>>> >>>>> 740-335-7020 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Logo5 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Josh Luthman >>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>> Suite 1337 >>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>> >>>> "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to >>>> continue that counts." >>>> --- Winston Churchill >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> ---- >>>> WISPA Wants You! 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