And tonight, I'm up on the top part of a ladder (Do Not Use As A Step) and 
the phone rings......  "What ya doin'?"

I'm leaving the phone in the van from now on.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robert West" <[email protected]>
To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 1:03 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Bullet Takes Down Entire Network....... Sigh....


> What?
>
> Just cause I owe you cash for two racks?  You still suck.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Glenn Kelley" <[email protected]>
> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 11:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Bullet Takes Down Entire Network....... Sigh....
>
>
>> HA HA
>>
>> ;-)
>>
>>
>> On Mar 27, 2010, at 11:00 PM, Robert West wrote:
>>
>>> Really.  You suck
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Robert West" <[email protected]>
>>> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 10:53 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Bullet Takes Down Entire Network.......
>>> Sigh....
>>>
>>>
>>>> You know it to be true, neighbor.  (For those of you who don't
>>>> know, Gene
>>>> is
>>>> next door)  Gene, you suck.  But you already know this, I'm sure.
>>>> HA!
>>>>
>>>> I just don't understand the need to call me whe I'm trying not to
>>>> fall to
>>>> my
>>>> death,.
>>>>
>>>> Bob-
>>>>
>>>> ---- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Glenn Kelley" <[email protected]>
>>>> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 7:17 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Bullet Takes Down Entire Network.......
>>>> Sigh....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> HA HA
>>>>>
>>>>> Doesn't your wife answer the phone @ the office...
>>>>>
>>>>> Time to take her next door for some chinese food and have a chat ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 27, 2010, at 11:41 AM, Robert West wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> AH!  And to top it ALL off, here I am, up on the top of a grain
>>>>>> leg,
>>>>>> out of
>>>>>> breath, cranky and freezing and the cell phone rings.........  It's
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> office calling me.....  "So and so just called and her internet
>>>>>> isn't
>>>>>> working"......  "Uh, and you somehow don't remember that I'm out
>>>>>> here trying
>>>>>> to fix it?!!!!"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There have been many times I felt like tossing the cell off the top
>>>>>> of a
>>>>>> tower and that was one of them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bob-
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:wireless-
>>>>>> [email protected]]
>>>>>> On
>>>>>> Behalf Of Robert West
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 11:30 AM
>>>>>> To: 'WISPA General List'
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Bullet Takes Down Entire Network.......
>>>>>> Sigh....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The main thing that was throwing me is, even when I took the bad AP
>>>>>> off
>>>>>> line, the rest of the network took a long time to recover.  5
>>>>>> minutes or so
>>>>>> and I wasn't waiting that long most of the time to see results, I
>>>>>> was in a
>>>>>> bit of a hurry so when it didn't settle, I moved onto the next.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bob-
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:wireless-
>>>>>> [email protected]]
>>>>>> On
>>>>>> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 11:17 AM
>>>>>> To: WISPA General List
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Bullet Takes Down Entire Network.......
>>>>>> Sigh....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bridge loop, probably.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 100M spitting out on to a backbone that can't handle that much
>>>>>> bandwidth.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I had a Redline backhaul create a loop and it flooded the traffic
>>>>>> through
>>>>>> the rest of the network, taking out everything up until the 100M
>>>>>> fiber tower
>>>>>> at which point I had ~60M to use.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
>>>>>> continue
>>>>>> that counts."
>>>>>> --- Winston Churchill
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Mike <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'd be curious how you figured out it was THAT unit causing the
>>>>>>> grief.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:wireless-
>>>>>>> [email protected]] On
>>>>>>> Behalf Of Robert West
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 10:06 AM
>>>>>>> To: 'WISPA General List'
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Bullet Takes Down Entire Network.......
>>>>>>> Sigh....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yep.  And it went everywhere.  Must have got in through the inside
>>>>>>> of the
>>>>>> N
>>>>>>> connector, that tape was wound pretty tight and I didn't see any
>>>>>>> water
>>>>>>> inside the tape.  Took the Bullet apart, wasn't much water but the
>>>>>>> board
>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>> "moist" like condensation.  Dried it all out, works fine now.
>>>>>>> Smeared
>>>>>> some
>>>>>>> RTV sealant on it to make me feel good but man, that was not much
>>>>>>> fun to
>>>>>>> ferret out.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bob-
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:wireless-
>>>>>>> [email protected]] On
>>>>>>> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 11:01 AM
>>>>>>> To: WISPA General List
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Bullet Takes Down Entire Network.......
>>>>>>> Sigh....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So much time spent learning how to deploy cheap Ubnt stuff.  Not
>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>> bad as MikrotikN but geez.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So the antenna full of water caused the bullet to go nuts and
>>>>>>> caused a
>>>>>>> packet storm, is that right?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 3/27/10, Robert West <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>> HA!  Had lots and lots of rain the other night.  At around 2am I
>>>>>>>> get an
>>>>>>>> alarm, everything is losing connection.  Everything.  EVERYTHING!
>>>>>>> Started
>>>>>>>> on it at 7am, was everyplace trying to isolate sections, was
>>>>>>>> driving me
>>>>>>>> nuts.  Finally, found one Bullet 5M that had a 5GHz stick antenna
>>>>>>>> on it
>>>>>>> (Was
>>>>>>>> for tech access on AP down on the ground, was a weird fix) and
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> thing
>>>>>>> had
>>>>>>>> just enough water in it to cause it blast the network.  Water?
>>>>>>>> Well,
>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> freak for taping a waterproofing everything but on this,
>>>>>>>> installer
>>>>>>>> boy
>>>>>>>> (That's his official name) taped it alright but since it was a
>>>>>>>> stick
>>>>>>> antenna
>>>>>>>> on it, taped the N connector on the bullet and then all the way
>>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> clamp on the antenna!  Hmmmmmm..  That seems to cover the DRAIN
>>>>>>>> HOLES on
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> bottom of the antenna.  (We'll have a talk.  Another one.)
>>>>>>>> Antenna, of
>>>>>>>> course, full of water.  Must have filled up then had enough
>>>>>>>> pressure to
>>>>>>> seep
>>>>>>>> through the tape somehow into the Bullet.  Nice.  So here it is,
>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>> little
>>>>>>>> nothing off in the corner doing it's dirty work all over the
>>>>>>>> network.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It hates me.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Had to share.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Robert West
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Just Micro Digital Services Inc.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 740-335-7020
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Logo5
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
>>>>>>> continue that counts."
>>>>>>> --- Winston Churchill
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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