StarOS is NATting at each backbone location - that is why I wanted to 
put this collection in place between the core router and the NAT router 
so it can see the customer data in its native (pre-NATted) state.

Matt Larsen
vistabeam.com


On 3/30/2010 1:34 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
> Scott,
>
>     4)  StarOS routers performing NAT at each backbone location
>
> It's StarOS NATing the customers off of the backbone.
>
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> On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 3:32 PM, Scott Reed<scottr...@onlyinternet.net>  
> wrote:
>    
>> If you can run IPTrack (see some of Marlon's previous posts) you have
>> have the MTs report by IP address back to the server.
>> I  have done this on my network, though it is not running right now.  I
>> would be glad to help if you opt to go this way.
>>
>> Matt Larsen - Lists wrote:
>>      
>>> Hello list,
>>>
>>> I am looking for a solution that will keep track of the monthly
>>> bandwidth consumption for all of my broadband customers and am having a
>>> hard time coming up with a good solution.
>>>
>>> Our goal is to collect the traffic flows every 15 minutes and generate
>>> three things:
>>>
>>>      1)  Internal reports showing bandwidth consumption by customers and
>>> that is in a database form that we can perform queries on
>>>      2)  Data that can be exported to our customer portal page that will
>>> show customers how much bandwidth they have consumed since the first of
>>> each month
>>>      3)  A batch file showing customers over their thresholds that we can
>>> import into our billing system (Freeside) at the end of the month so we
>>> can bill overages
>>>
>>> Our system is setup as follows:
>>>
>>>      1)  StarOS access points
>>>      2)  OSPF backbone back to two separate 50 meg Internet backbone links
>>>      3)  Mikrotik core routers at each backbone location
>>>      4)  StarOS routers performing NAT at each backbone location
>>>      5)  Mikrotik edge routers connected to the Internet backbone
>>>
>>> Radius accounting is not an option, due to inaccurate IP accounting
>>> information returned by the StarOS APs.   PPPoE is also not an option as
>>> we have 2000+ customers in place and not all of the hardware would
>>> easily convert to PPPoE.
>>>
>>> Ideally, the data should be collectable at the Mikrotik core routers, as
>>> that is the place where all of the private IP traffic is still in its
>>> pre-NAT status.   We have been trying to keep track of it with Netflow
>>> data from our Mikrotik core routers, but it does not seem to be accurate
>>> and there are documented problems with the Mikrotik Netflow exports.  We
>>> have confirmed that the data we have been collecting is not accurate,
>>> and I have no intention on billing a customer based on inaccurate data.
>>>
>>> We have a couple of reporting engines that we have tried, with mixed
>>> levels of success.   I did contact Brandon Checketts about his program,
>>> which was close to what we wanted, but it is out of date and he was not
>>> responsive so our efforts are focused on either using something open
>>> source that we can modify or just buying an appliance that will do what
>>> we need.   My preference is to go open source because we have multiple
>>> backbone connections and also because I have several consulting
>>> customers who want to have similar setups put in place on their
>>> networks.   Also, I want to make sure that this is "revenue neutral" and
>>> can pay for for itself in the overage billing after it is installed.
>>>
>>> We can install either a switch or a transparent bandwidth monitoring
>>> server of some kind between the core and NAT servers to collect the data
>>> flows.    My lead tech and I are both Linux savvy, and would prefer
>>> something that runs on Linux.
>>>
>>> I recall that Travis Johnson posted a description of an open source,
>>> linux-based system that he uses to track bandwidth, but I cannot find
>>> the email where he lays all of the elements out.   Does anyone have any
>>> recommendations for this situation?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> Matt Larsen
>>> vistabeam.com
>>>
>>>
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