Thats why we had the first hop router record the data from each customer, 
and then have monitoring box with MRTG pull all the data from the first hop 
router in one shot. It was much less load on the network.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Richey" <myli...@battleop.com>
To: <n...@brevardwireless.com>; "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 7:55 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Tracking Solutions


>I had CactiEZ running in a VM Ware on a Dell 1850 with 4GB of ram.  It did
> fine with about 200 devices but the time would drift really bad.    In 10
> minutes the time would be off by hours.    I am now running it on the same
> 1850 but not in a VM with a few hundred graphs now.
>
> Richey
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Nick Olsen
> Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 5:43 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Tracking Solutions
>
> Well, This would be a little more time consuming. And would need a hell of 
> a
> cacti box. But you could SNMP hit each customers CPE device if it supports
> it. That would be quite the load for the cacti box though.
>
> I second cacti easy though.
> We have a box running CactiEZ with 68 sensors on it, and it sits around 
> all
> day doing nothing in terms of hardware usage. Every time I've tried it in 
> a
> VM its had bad performance issues around 20 sensors.
>
> Nick Olsen
> Network Engineer / Customer Support
> (321) 205-1100 x106
>
> ----------------------------------------
>
> From: "Steven McGehee" <stev...@qx.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 4:49 PM
> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Tracking Solutions
>
> We're also big fans and long time users of Cacti, so I'd happily recommend
> it as well.
>
> On 3/30/2010 16:46, Justin Wilson wrote:
>>      Cacti would be what I would start with.  I have set it up where
> business
>> customers have their own individual logins and can see just the graphs
> you
>> want them to.  It has built in graphs for 95th percentile.  There is a
>> plugin called nectar which allows you to have graphs e-mailed. You can
> also
>> install the flowview plugin.
>>
>>      Not sure how to get it talking to freeside though.
>>   --
>> Justin Wilson<j...@mtin.net>
>> http://www.mtin.net
>> http://www.metrospan.net
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Matt Larsen - Lists<li...@manageisp.com>
>> Reply-To: WISPA General List<wireless@wispa.org>
>> Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 13:24:20 -0600
>> To: Mikrotik discussions<mikro...@mail.butchevans.com>, WISPA General
> List
>> <wireless@wispa.org>
>> Subject: [WISPA] Bandwidth Tracking Solutions
>>
>> Hello list,
>>
>> I am looking for a solution that will keep track of the monthly
>> bandwidth consumption for all of my broadband customers and am having
>> a hard time coming up with a good solution.
>>
>> Our goal is to collect the traffic flows every 15 minutes and generate
>> three things:
>>
>>      1)  Internal reports showing bandwidth consumption by customers
>> and that is in a database form that we can perform queries on
>>      2)  Data that can be exported to our customer portal page that
>> will show customers how much bandwidth they have consumed since the
>> first of each month
>>      3)  A batch file showing customers over their thresholds that we
> can
>> import into our billing system (Freeside) at the end of the month so
>> we can bill overages
>>
>> Our system is setup as follows:
>>
>>      1)  StarOS access points
>>      2)  OSPF backbone back to two separate 50 meg Internet backbone
> links
>>      3)  Mikrotik core routers at each backbone location
>>      4)  StarOS routers performing NAT at each backbone location
>>      5)  Mikrotik edge routers connected to the Internet backbone
>>
>> Radius accounting is not an option, due to inaccurate IP accounting
>> information returned by the StarOS APs.   PPPoE is also not an option as
>> we have 2000+ customers in place and not all of the hardware would
>> easily convert to PPPoE.
>>
>> Ideally, the data should be collectable at the Mikrotik core routers,
>> as that is the place where all of the private IP traffic is still in its
>> pre-NAT status.   We have been trying to keep track of it with Netflow
>> data from our Mikrotik core routers, but it does not seem to be
>> accurate and there are documented problems with the Mikrotik Netflow
>> exports.  We have confirmed that the data we have been collecting is
>> not accurate, and I have no intention on billing a customer based on
> inaccurate data.
>>
>> We have a couple of reporting engines that we have tried, with mixed
>> levels of success.   I did contact Brandon Checketts about his program,
>> which was close to what we wanted, but it is out of date and he was
>> not responsive so our efforts are focused on either using something
>> open source that we can modify or just buying an appliance that will do
> what
>> we need.   My preference is to go open source because we have multiple
>> backbone connections and also because I have several consulting
>> customers who want to have similar setups put in place on their
>> networks.   Also, I want to make sure that this is "revenue neutral" and
>> can pay for for itself in the overage billing after it is installed.
>>
>> We can install either a switch or a transparent bandwidth monitoring
>> server of some kind between the core and NAT servers to collect the data
>> flows.    My lead tech and I are both Linux savvy, and would prefer
>> something that runs on Linux.
>>
>> I recall that Travis Johnson posted a description of an open source,
>> linux-based system that he uses to track bandwidth, but I cannot find
>> the email where he lays all of the elements out.   Does anyone have any
>> recommendations for this situation?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Matt Larsen
>> vistabeam.com
>>
>>
>>
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